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Raoult interview on HCQ. Turmeric in demand as a remedy for Coronavirus

Newsletter published on April 1, 2020

(1) Raoult interview on HCQ - English translation by Leo Schmit
(2) Turmeric in demand as a remedy for Coronavirus
(3) EU project in 'mortal danger' if Italy and Spain are abandoned
(4) If Virus sweeps 3rd World, millions could die. Cancel debt so they
can provide health care

(1) Raoult interview on HCQ - English translation by Leo Schmit

From: leo schmit <leoschmit@yahoo.com>  Subject: Raoult interview

I came upon an interview with Dr Raoult in French alt.news magazine
'Planetes360'

Title: "there shall be a parliamentary inquiry after this, and it will
be a bloody affair".

Didier Raoult : « Il y aura une enquête parlementaire après, et elle
sera sanglante »

I copied the piece and will translate relevant statements.

Leo

Didier Raoult : « Il y aura une enquête parlementaire après, et elle
sera sanglante » PAR Planetes360 3 jours ago in POLITIQUE

Le portait du Pr Didier Raoult paru dans Marcelle il y a une semaine a
explosé tous nos compteurs (plus de 100 000 lecteurs). Plus surprenant
encore, il n'a donné lieu à aucune polémique. Le chercheur est
actuellement au cœur de tous les débats pour la solution thérapeutique
qu'il préconise. Hier matin, le Canard enchaîné titrait même sur les
menaces de mort dont il a fait l'objet. D'où cet exercice de
questions-réponses auquel le virologue aujourd'hui le plus célèbre de la
planète a bien voulu se plier car il connaît bien et depuis longtemps
les journalistes qui le questionnent.

The portrait of Dr Didier Raoult published in the (journal) Marcelle one
week ago has exploded all counting devices (more than 100 000 readers).
Even more surprising, it has not resulted in any sort of polemics. The
researcher is actually in the focus of all debates concerning the
therapeutic solution that he advocates.. Yesterday morning (the journal)
Canard enchaîné  even titled a piece about the death threats aimed at
him. That's why we have this Q&A exercise which the now most famous
celebrity of the planet is happy to subject himself to, because he know
(only) too well and since longtime the journalists who question him.
Vous avez fait savoir mardi que vous ne participeriez plus aux réunions
du comité scientifique qui conseille nos autorités sur la conduite à
tenir face à l'épidémie, pourquoi ?

You have made know last Tuesday that you will no longer participate at
meetings of the Scientific Committee that advises our authorities on the
approach (to take) in face of the epidemic, why?

Je n'ai pas deux heures à perdre dans des discussions qui ne vont pas à
l'essentiel. Ici, nous sommes submergés de travail, nous sommes
submergés par les résultats des tests et les données de nos patients. Un
tiers de nos 75 lits d'hospitalisation est renouvelé tous les jours, nos
équipes sont mobilisées H24… C'est cela qui m'importe, pas les causeries
où il ne faut surtout froisser personne.

I don't have 2 hours to lose at discussions which do not touch on the
essential issue. Here were are overwhelmed by work, we are overwhelmed
by the test results and the data from  our patients. One third of our 75
hospital beds are being redeployed (LS: renewed, literally) every day,
our teams are deployed H24… That's what is important for me, not those
chatting sessions in which one has above anything else to take care not
to offend anybody.

Les critiques, les mises en cause, cela vous blesse ? The criticism, the
accusations, doesthat hurt you? Les critiques et les conversations de
bar sur les plateaux télé, je m'en fous à un point que vous n'imaginez
pas. Ce qui m'ennuie, en revanche, c'est que la France, mon pays, ne
suive pas ce qui est raisonnable et prenne du retard parce que des gens
qui se pensent importants ne veulent pas se dédire. Moi, je suis serein,
je sais comment cela va se terminer.

The criticism and the panel conversations on TV, I don't give a damm to
a point you cannot even imagine. What annoys me, on the other hand, is
that France, my country, does not proceed (to do) what is reasonable and
delays matters because people who consider themselves to be important
don't want to retract.     C'est ce que certains vous reprochent, de
prédire l'avenir. That's what some are reproaching you for, to predict
the future (LS: of this pandemic).

Il ne s'agit pas de prémonition mais de savoir. Dans le domaine qui est
le mien, je sais ce que je dis, je sais ce que font mes équipes,
j'accumule des données – donc du savoir supplémentaire – et je mesure
tous les jours l'effet clinique de ce que je préconise. Certains ne
veulent pas y croire ? C'est leur problème. Les politiques et leurs
décisions, c'est l'Histoire qui les juge. On verra très vite ce qu'il en
est pour cette crise. On connaîtra la vérité. Un millier de patients ont
été déclaré positifs aux tests que nous avons réalisés. Grâce au suivi
de leur traitement, nous disposons d'une somme considérable de données.
Nous les compilons. Elles nous donneront bientôt une idée plus précise
de l'action de l'hydroxychloroquine.

This is not about premonitions but  about knowing (facts). In my field
of work I know what I say, I know what my teams are doing, I accumulate
data – and by doing so supplementary knowledge – and I measure (monitor)
every day theclinical effects of what I advocate. Some people don''t
want to believe it? That's their problem. The Politicians and their
decisions, that's for history to judge. People will very quickly know
the truth. One thousand of patients have been declared positive in the
tests that we have realized. Thanks to our follow up in their treatment
we are dispose of a considerable quantity of data. We compile these
data. These will give us soon a more precise idea of the working of
hydroxychloroquine.    Avez-vous ajusté vos indications thérapeutiques ?
Have you adjusted your therapeutic indications?

Notre doctrine, c'est de détecter et de traiter le plus en amont.
L'hydroxychloroquine fonctionne sur les cas modérés à sévères. Au-delà,
quand les patients sont en réanimation, c'est trop tard. Le virus est
encore là, mais le malade souffre d'inflammations pulmonaires consécutives.

  Our doctrine is to detect and treat at the most 'upstream' occasion.
Hydroxychloroquine is functional both for moderate and severe cases.
Beyond that, when patients are on re-animation, it is too late. The
virus is still there, but (?) the sick person (patient) is suffering
from consecutive pulmonary inflammations.

Justement, l'essai clinique Discovery va être mené sur des patients très
atteints…

Just now, the clinical trial Discovery will be done with very heavily
affected patients.

Si on avait envie de prouver que ça ne marche pas, on ne s'y prendrait
pas autrement. Il y aura une enquête parlementaire après tout ça, et
elle sera sanglante, autant que l'affaire du sang contaminé. Et ce sera
pire si le gouvernement décide de refuser l'accès au médicament.

If one is inclined to prove that that does not work, one will not change
one's attitude. There will be a parliamentary inquest after all this,
and that will be a bloody affair, as bloody as the contaminated blood
affair was.     Mais, même l'Organisation mondiale de la santé (OMS) met
en garde contre le traitement que vous préconisez…

But the World Health Organization is warning against the treatment that
you are proposing…

Avant toute chose, je suis médecin. J'ai prêté le serment d'Hippocrate
en 1981 et mon devoir depuis, c'est de faire ce qui me paraît le mieux
pour les malades, en fonction de mes connaissances et de l'état de la
science. C'est ce que je fais depuis 40 ans et ce que je fais en ce
moment avec mes équipes : soigner le mieux possible les patients qui se
présentent. Cela veut dire tles tester, évaluer l'état de ceux qui sont
positifs et les traiter avec les thérapies disponibles. Aujourd'hui, il
n'y en a qu'une qui a commencé à donner des résultats, c'est
l'hydroxychloroquine associée à un antibiotique, l'azithromycine. Toutes
les données que nous recueillons depuis que nous avons commencé, il y a
un mois, après les premiers essais en Chine, vont dans le même sens.
Alors, que ça respecte ou non les procédures scientifiques habituelles…
Je suis d'accord avec le Président quand il dit que nous sommes en
guerre. Une guerre qui justifie de se battre avec toutes les armes dont
nous disposons. En tant que médecins, il est de notre devoir de donner
aux malades le meilleur traitement disponible à l'instant T. Le reste,
c'est de la littérature.

First of all, I am a medic, I have taken the oath of Hippocratus in 1981
and my duty since then is to do what I consider the best for those who
are ill, based on my knowledge and the state of science. That's what I
am doing for 40 years and what I am doing at this moment together with
my teams: to provide the best possible care for my patients who show up.
That implies to test them,  evaluate the condition of those who are
positive and treat them with the  therapies that are available.Today
there is only therapy that has begun to show results, which is
l'hydroxychloroquine in association with an antibiotique, the
azithromycine. All of the data we are collecting, since last month,
after the first trial in China, point in the same direction. So, whether
this or is not in respect of customary scientific practices… I agree
with the President when he says that we are at war. A war that justifies
to go into battle with all the weapons that we have. As concerning the
medic professionals, it is our duty to give the best treatment that at
the moment is available. The rest, well that's literature.  […]

Sans présager de la publication de vos nouvelles observations, que
pouvez-vous dire de l'efficacité de Plaquenil ?

Without foreclose publication of your newest observations what could you
say about the efficacy of Plaquenil?

Ne vous inquiétez pas : ça marche. Et même mieux que ça : on a deux fois
moins de victimes d'infections virales cette année, toutes maladies
confondues, aucun pic de surmortalité et pas de résistance aux
antibiotiques.

Do not worry: it is on track. And better than that:  This year we have
two times less victims of viral infections, all illnesses confounded,
nil picture of excessive mortality and no resistance to antibiotics. […]
Qu'est-ce qui, selon vous, empêche de généraliser ces tests et ces
examens au scanner à l'ensemble du pays ?

What is, who, according to you, is preventing the generalization of
these tests and those examinations on the scanner of the whole of our
country?

C'est d'abord une question de volonté politique et de mise en place
logistique. Les moyens, nous les avons. Entre les laboratoires
d'analyses privés, les laboratoires vétérinaires de très grande qualité
que nous possédons, les médecins de ville et les infirmières libérales,
tous qualifiés pour faire des prélèvements, ainsi que nos ressources
hospitalières, il y a de quoi faire. Ici, nous ne sommes pas des
extra-terrestres. Si nous arrivons à faire 2 000 tests par jour à l'IHU
de Marseille je ne peux pas croire que la France entière ne soit pas
capable de faire comme en Allemagne ou en Corée du Sud. 100 000 tests
par jour, c'est ce dont nous aurions besoin et nous en sommes capables.
Des tests PCR de base, hors épidémie, nous en faisons 300 000 par an à
l'IHU. Quant aux scanners, nous faisons face à Marseille, mais cela sera
peut-être plus difficile ailleurs, car notre taux d'équipement en
scanners est un des plus faibles des pays de l'OCDE. C'est la
conséquence des choix politiques et financiers des 30 dernières années.
Les conneries finissent toujours par se payer.

It is primarily a question of political will and logistical
arrangements. The resources, we have. Apart from the private sector
laboratories, the veterinary laboratories of the greatest quality we
have the general practicians, the un-aligned nurses, all those who are
qualified to assist to home quarantaine, in addition to our hospital
resources, what are going to do?  Here we are not extra-terrestials. If
we achieve to do 2 000 tests a day, I cannot believe that the whole of
France would not be capable, like in Germany or in South Korea to do
100.000 test p/day, that'swhat we need are in need of and that's what we
are capable of doing. Basic PRC tests, outside of the epidemic, we do
300 000 of them at the IHU.  As scanners are concerned, we can face the
demand at Marseilles, but that will be more difficult elsewhere, because
our stock of equipment and scanners is one of the most feable of the
OECD countries. That is the result of the political and financial
choices of the last 30 years. Idiocies always end up in paying (for the
damage).   […] Que pensez-vous de l'attitude des autorités, politiques
et médicales, d'une façon générale ?

What do you think of the attitude of the authorities, political, or
medical, in a general manner?

Je me contenterai de citer la maxime attribuée à Sénèque : « Errare
humanum est, perseverare diabolicum » (NDLR : L'erreur est humaine,
persévérer – dans l'erreur – est diabolique).

I am pleased to quote a 'maxime' which is attributed to Seneca: « Errare
humanum est, perseverare diabolicum »  (NDLR : Making a mistake is
human, perseverance - in the mistake – is diabolical)

Lire l'article entier sur marcelle.media

(2) Turmeric in demand as a remedy for Coronavirus

From: chris lancenet <chrislancenet@gmail.com>  Subject: 3 links on
turmeric health properties on ncbi +1 by indiawest.com=Coronavirus scare
shoots up demand


Role of Curcumin in Disease Prevention and Treatment

Published online 2018 Feb 28.


Curcumin: A Review of Its Effects on Human Health

Published online 2017 Oct 22.


Curcumin-free turmeric exhibits anti-inflammatory and anticancer
activities: Identification of novel components of turmeric.

Epub 2013 Jul 12.


Coronavirus scare shoots up demand for India's raw turmeric ... -march
13 2020

(3) EU project in 'mortal danger' if Italy and Spain are abandoned


Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

29 March 2020 o 4:56pm

Germany's refusal to embrace 'coronabonds' amid the crisis could
threaten the European Union's very survival

Italy's political leaders from Left to Right have erupted in fury over
the EU's minimalist, insulting, and cack-handed response to the Covid-19
pandemic, warning that lack of economic solidarity risks pushing the
bloc's festering divisions beyond the point of no return.

"Don't make a tragic mistake. The whole European edifice risks losing
its raison d'etre," said the Italian premier, Giuseppe Conte, demanding
a giant Marshall Plan funded on the EU's joint credit card to relaunch
the productive system once the current nightmare is over.

Conte said anybody who thinks they can force Italy to accept
disciplinary terms as a condition for loans – a sort of "Troika" regime
– have gravely misjudged the mood of his nation. Italy will not take the
money. "We will do it alone," he said.

The message is that if there is no EU solidarity when it matters, then
it no longer makes sense for Italy to accept EU surveillance and
constraints, or for Italy to forgo use of its own sovereign policy
instruments in self-defence. Europe's pandemic strategy – every man for
himself – may have unstoppable centrifugal consequences.

The warning was echoed by Jacques Delors, former Commission chief and
euro godfather, who stepped back into the fray this weekend, denouncing
Europe's paralysed response to the greatest crisis since the Second
World War as a "mortal danger" to the European project.

Delors launched monetary union in the early 1990s on the implicit
assumption that it would be the federalysing catalyst, leading – by
means of crises – to full fiscal and political union.

This did not happen in 2011-12 when the banking/debt crisis exposed the
euro's unworkable structure. Northern creditor states blocked moves
towards joint debt issuance and a proto-EU treasury, precisely because
such moves have huge constitutional implications. They imposed the stick
of disciplinary controls but never delivered on the other side of the
political bargain, a banking union and more fiscal sharing.

This has left the European monetary union system acutely vulnerable to
the coronavirus shock. The European Central Bank lacks the instruments –
and legal authority – to rescue the euro project on its own in an
economic crisis of this kind.

The fundamental issue, ducked for two decades, is coming to a head as
the eurozone productive system freezes for months. This earthquake makes
the long-simmering showdown between North and South far more dangerous.
  Whether the EU survives may be determined by decisions made over the
coming weeks.

Delors and French president Emmanuel Macron are seizing on events to ram
through their arch-integrationist ambitions. But they have run smack
into the equally entrenched views of the "frugals", or the Hanseatic
bloc.  Economic Intelligence newsletter SUBSCRIBER (article)

Dutch premier Mark Rutte has become the spokesman for the hardliners -
giving political cover to Germany – categorically ruling out emergency
"coronabonds"  or other forms of debt mutualisation. "It would bring the
eurozone into a different realm. You would cross the Rubicon into a
eurozone that is more of a transfer union," he said. "We are against it,
but it's not just us, and I cannot foresee any circumstances in which we
would change that position."

Enrico Letta, Italy's former-premier and an ardent EU integrationist,
accused the Netherlands of leading the pack of "irresponsibles" and
trying to "replace the United Kingdom in the role of 'Doctor No'". The
reflexive use of the UK as a rhetorical foil evades of the true issue.
It was not London that blocked moves to fiscal union over the last
decade; it was Germany.

What is new this time is the emergence of a united "Latin Front" across
southern Europe, with both Italy and Spain refusing to sign the EU
summit conclusions on Thursday night after six hours of surreal
discussions. They issued an ultimatum instead, giving Brussels 10 days
to come up with a solution or face dire consequences.

Portugal's premier said Dutch demands for stringent conditions on any
credit line were "disgusting" at a time when Europe is facing both a
humanitarian disaster and an economic shock beyond anybody's control.

This Latin alliance never got off the ground in 2011-2012. Conservative
Spanish ministers – aspiring to be the "Prussians of the South" –
refused to be linked with Italy. Chancellor Angela Merkel was able to
impose Germany's austerity doctrines by divide and rule, and through
control of all key policy instruments.

While some in the creditor bloc are resorting to the same misplaced
"morality" rhetoric of that episode – blaming the victim nations for
being ill-prepared because they are supposedly feckless – the emotional
reaction this time is ferocious and the reserves of pro-EU sentiment are
thinner after a decade of austerity and and worse unemployment than the
1930s.

Lega strongman Matteo Salvini called the EU a "den of snakes and
jackals", warning that mounting rage would soon explode into an Italian
national revolt. There will be a settling of scores when the virus is
defeated, he said. Italy will wave goodbye to Europe if it has to – and
"we won't be saying thanks".

Brussels is used to hot words from the Lega and the Fratelli d'Italia,
the nationalist "Italy First" government in waiting. It may be more
worried by warnings from a string of pro-European statesmen is that this
crisis is testing Italian political consent for the EU project itself.

"I hope that everybody understands the grave threat facing Europe," said
President Sergio Mattarella in an address to the nation. "There has to
be a common EU instrument before it is too late."

Even former premier Mario Monte – the voice of Europeanism in Italy –
wrote in Corriere della Sera that it is time for his country to issue a
threat: Rome should tell the Germans that unless there is a move to
joint EU action they must assume that the ECB will instead do the job by
printing money and unleashing a second "Weimar hyperinflation".

The hyperbolic tone is bizarre from a man of such cultivated statecraft,
but it shows how quickly events are moving. Monte is in effect warning
that the Latin Front and its allies will use their majority power over
the ECB to ram through fiscal union by the back door. Countries with
coronavirus lockdowns

By all accounts, the summit on Thursday night was extraordinary. Angela
Merkel, who is self-isolating, posted a picture of herself instead of
appearing on the videolink screen and was eerily absent for most of the
discussion. Faced with vehement demands, she icily reproached the Latin
Front for raising hopes for coronabonds that can never be fulfilled.

Merkel warned that no such proposal would make it through the Bundestag
even if she agreed. Germany's top court has already ruled that eurobonds
would require a change to the German constitution – near impossible in
the current fractured political landscape.

Macron told the gathering that Europe cannot go on as it is. Something
will break. He tried to persuade Merkel that the amount of joint
issuance is not important. It can be a token sum – what matters is the
gesture.

But in arguing this, he gave the game away. His ulterior purpose is to
exploit the pandemic to establish a new fact on the ground: fiscal
union. That is why Germany is digging in its heels.

Italy's official death toll has surpassed 10,000 but mayors from the
hotspots of Brescia and Bergamo say the real figure is multiples of this
number.

Germany is airlifting the critically ill from Italy to hospitals in
German regions with spare capacity. Solidarity is coming through at
last. But the damage done from the early EU reflexes will endure.

When Italy invoked the EU's formal disaster procedure with desperate
calls for protective gear and ventilators, no country responded. Germany
and France instead imposed export bans. The EU's single market did not
exist when push came to shove.

For the past 60 years Europe's leaders have always found a way to
overcome bitter divisions and keep the show on the road. They will
probably do so again this time. But they have no margin for error.

(4) If Virus sweeps 3rd World, millions could die. Cancel debt so they
can provide health care

Subject: [MARKETING] Covid-19: Stop the deadliest wave From: "Sarah
Morrison - Avaaz" <avaaz@avaaz.org>

This is a terrifying time for us all, but it could get much, much worse.

If coronavirus sweeps across Asia, Africa, and South America next,
MILLIONS could die… because in many countries, people simply can't
afford to stay home or get the basic health care they need! But major
governments are convening in days -- if we urge them to cancel the debt
of the world's poorest nations, we can ensure these countries use this
precious money to save lives right now! Once 1 million join, we'll
plaster our call across leading newspapers. Sign now!   Dear friends,

This is a terrifying time for us all, but it could get much, much worse.

If coronavirus takes over some of the world's poorest countries in Asia,
Africa, and South America, MILLIONS of people could die.

People crammed into slums, overcrowded hospitals, little money to help
the poor. In many of these places, people simply can't afford to stay
home or get the basic health care they need!

But major governments are meeting in days to work out a global response
to this crisis. Experts are asking them to offer debt relief to the
world's poorest countries, allowing that precious money to save lives.
That's exactly what is needed right now, and it's on us to ensure our
leaders make it happen!

Let's join this global call to contain this deadly wave -- when 1
million sign, we'll plaster our call across leading newspapers. Sign now!

Cancel the debt of the world's poorest to fight coronavirus

Poor countries worldwide are saddled with billions of dollars in debt to
rich countries and institutions like the IMF. But right now, it makes
much more sense for them to inject this cash into their healthcare
systems and to help their people stay at home so we can stop this virus
spreading.

Pakistan and Ethiopia have already called for debt relief, and even the
World Bank has asked G20 leaders to offer debt relief to the world's
poorest countries so they can spend their precious resources on the
coronavirus pandemic.

Leaders have agreed to this before, but it took huge public pressure. In
2005, G8 finance ministers cancelled the debt of the world's 18 most
heavily indebted countries to the amount of $40 billion! And after
Ebola, the IMF cancelled $100m of debt for the world's worst-hit places.

So, let's make this call massive, before it's too late! This is a global
crisis and we'll only beat it if countries everywhere can contain the
virus. Sign now and let's urge G20 leaders, the IMF, and World Bank to
urgently cancel debt and save lives!

Cancel the debt of the world's poorest to fight coronavirus

Tragedy can birth some of the most beautiful moments of our time, but
only if we take this time to join hands. After World War II, major
powers wrote off most of Germany's debt and the United Nations was
created for international peacekeeping. We can create something
visionary from this crisis, but we need to urge our world leaders to
rise and be the heroes this moment needs. Let's do it together.

With hope and determination,

Sarah, Alaphia, Christoph, Alice, Diego, Risalat, Oscar, Nell, Bert, and
the rest of the Avaaz team.

More information:

The Next Wave (Foreign Policy)


Bill Gates warns of 10 million deaths as Coronavirus spreads to Africa
(The Daily Telegraph)


Urgent call to head off new debt crisis in developing world (The Guardian)


World Bank, IMF urge debt relief for poorest countries


Comment (Peter M.): There also a need to get rid of the Tax Haven
network, and Transfer Pricing. They are a form of piracy. So debt
cancellation is only a matter of giving back what was stolen.

"Tax havens are the most important single reason why poor people and
poor countries stay poor."

-  Nicholas Shaxson in Treasure Islands: Tax Havens and the Men who
Stole the World  (2011).

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