1062 Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

Newsletter published on September 22, 2019

This material is from my webpage on 911, which I have just updated
(thanks to Israel Shamir): http://mailstar.net/wtc.html

(1) Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy
(2) Update to Wayne Madsen report on Mossad infiltration of 9/11 Arab
hijacker cells
(3) Stolen Identities: 9/11 hijackers cf Dubai assassination
(4) Mossad did 911 - Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US
Army War College
(5) Sabrosky: 19 named Arabs on 4 planes "at best incomplete, and at
worst a complete fabrication"
(6) Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" were alive and well after 911 -
they were victims of identity theft
(7) Stolen Identities: Saudi Prince says seven alleged Hijackers are
ALIVE (Sept 23 '01)
(8) Stolen Identities: UK Telegraph interviews four 9/11 Hijackers,
ALIVE (Sept 23, '01)
(9) Mossad uses stolen identities of living people, for Assassinations
(Australia, New Zealand)
(10) Mohamed Atta's father says he's still alive, blames Mossad for 9/11
(11) Atta's girlfriend: he loved pork chops, was already a licensed
pilot, could speak Hebrew, had been in "some kind of militia"
(12) Hijackers' last letter, found in baggage, shows ignorance of Islam
- Robert Fisk
(13) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -1
(14) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -2
(15) 911 No Planes Debate - reply to David West

(1) Shamir 911 Mossad fantasy

Re: 911 Mossad ran Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen
From: "israel shamir israel.shamir@gmail.com"

I am not against fantasy; I am not against insinuation either, as long
as we ourselves understand it is b.s. The item called 911 Mossad ran
Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen - is a clear case of b.s.
Somebody forwarded a pure fantasy of Madsen to Stratfor; this forward
ended in Wikileaks collection. In no way it makes the story real or
reliable or trustworthy. A forwarded fantasy is still fantasy. It is an
attempt to enhance credibility by using the Wikileaks name. Guardian and
NYTimes also did it. You, Peter, should read it carefully. Otherwise
people will post it as "Peter Myers proves Mossad ran 911 cell" )))

(2) Update to Wayne Madsen report on Mossad infiltration of 9/11 Arab
hijacker cells

 > From: Eric Walberg <walberg2002@yahoo.com>
 > is this reliable news? finally the smoking gun?

Wayne Madsen's original report "Mossad ran 9/11 Arab hijacker cells"
(January 24, 2011) is at:
http://redwolfwarrior.wordpress.com/2011/01/25/atta-and-his-teams-controlled-by-mossad-teams-trained-in-negev/

On the same day, January 25, 2011 he issued an UPDATE, stating that he
had been informed that Atta too was an Israeli agent:
http://redwolfwarrior.wordpress.com/2011/01/26/was-atta-an-agent-for-the-israelis-reliable-sources-believe-he-was/

It's also at http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/articles/20110125_3

Was Atta an agent for the Israelis? Reliable sources believe he was

Adding up the facts = nyet to 9/11 report conclusions.

January 25, 2011 —

Was Atta an agent for the Israelis? Reliable sources believe he was

Following yesterday’s WMR special report on the 9/11 "hijacking" cells
being run by the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency, we have been
contacted by reliable sources who have evidence that "lead hijacker"
Mohamed Atta and his cohort, Ziad Jarreh, may have been Mossad agents or
double agents. There is also no actual proof that any of the "hijacking"
teams ever made it aboard any of the four flights on 9/11. Autopsies of
bodies discovered at the Pentagon yielded no Arab identities and there
were no Arab names on any of the flight manifests.

In September 2009, WMR reported: "Last year, two Lebanese brothers — Ali
Jarreh and Youssef Jarreh — were arrested by Lebanese authorities who
linked the pair to an espionage cell responsible for the car bombing
assassination of Hezbollah military commander Imad Mughniyeh in Damascus
in February 2008. The Jarrah’s were found by the Lebanese Army in
possession of ‘communication devices and other sophisticated equipment.’
The Jarrahs arrested by the Lebanese had been recruited by the Mossad in
the 1980s when Israel occupied a large section of Lebanon. And for a
Paul Harvey-like "rest of the story," they are related to Ziad Jarreh,
the man who was said to have been a close associate and fellow hijacking
planner of Mohamed Atta and whose American visa was found with photo and
visa number largely intact in a field in Pennsylvania on 9/11."

WMR has also been informed by a Joint Terrorism Task Force source
stationed in New York in 2001 that Atta lived in Fort Lee, New Jersey in
August 2001 and was protected by Israeli "art students" who lived close
to Atta in Fort Lee. The art students, identified as Mossad agents by
the FBI and CIA, lived in Fort Lee from June to September 2001.

Atta maintained high-level contacts in Saudi intelligence and Pakistan’s
Inter Service Intelligence (ISI), giving the Mossad plausible
deniability of any relationship with Atta. FBI teams were denied access
to the passenger manifest of the El Al plane that exfiltrated scores of
Mossad agents from New York’s JFK airport to Tel Aviv in the afternoon
of 9/11. There is reason by some FBI agents to believe that "Mohamed
Atta" was among the passengers on the El Al escape flight.

(3) Stolen Identities: 9/11 hijackers cf Dubai assassination
- Peter Myers, March 21, 2010

The recent Dubai assasination in which Mossad used stolen identities
warrants re-examination of evidence that the identities of at least some
of the alleged 9/11 hijackers had been stolen.

In item 11, the UK Telegraph interviews four 9/11 Hijackers, ALIVE.

And in item 10, a Saudi Prince says that at least 7 of the alleged
hijckers are alive. This original Reuters News Wire report was hard to
track down. Please save the Archive webpage to hard disk, and make
backup copies.

The Telegraph assumes that their identities were stolen by Bin Laden.
The prospect that Mossad might have done it is not considered. Yet, New
Zealand later broke off diplomatic relations with Israel over Mossad
using its passports. And the Dubai assassination shows Mossad's track
record.

Of the four ALIVE hijackers the Telegraph interviewed, one, Saeed
Al-Ghamdi, is a Saudi Airlines pilot - ALIVE. He was named as a
terrorist on the United Airlines flight that crashed in Pennsylvania.
The FBI published his personal details but with a photograph of somebody
else - possibly someone who impersonated him at a Florida flight school.

Another, Abdulaziz Al-Omari, is an engineer from Riyadh - ALIVE. Mr
Al-Omari was listed as one of the hijackers of the American Airlines
plane that crashed into the the WTC north tower. He said, "I have no
idea how to fly a plane."

And another, Salem Al-Hamzi, said, "I have never been to the United States".

If these "hijackers" are alive, who attended the Florida flying schools,
impersonating them?

Item 4 reports that TV stations are increasingly ready to run
documentaries arguing/showing that 9/11 was an Inside Job. About 20 such
cases are described here, yet NOT ONE mentions Mossad. This does not
imply that these documentaries are worthless. It is better to get the
public wondering about US government first, then progressing onto the
even more taboo topic second. But information about the latter is NEVER
presented on public TV stations.

It is hard to believe that Bush & Cheney were not complicit in some way.
But that does not mean that they were the brains behind the plot. The
point to remember is: Mossad knows what THEY are up to, but they don't
know what Mossad's doing.

US intelligence agencies are not monolithic. Elements of the CIA, NSA,
FBI and Police seem to have provided information on Mossad involvement
in 9/11 to the makers of the documentary 9/11 Missing Links (item 4).

On the other hand, Mossad would have some Sayanin in those bodies, apart
from those who been duped. So the intelligence agencies are themselves
split.

If "Inside Job" documentaries reach a wider audience, the Pentagon and
the Intelligence Agencies might find that THEY are assumed to be the
Plotters. Mossad - if guilty as I believe - would do all it could to
keep the spotlight on them, not it. In self-defence, those agencies
might spill the beans and tell all they know.

(4) Mossad did 911 - Alan Sabrosky, former Director of Studies at US
Army War College

Betrayal and Deceit: The Road to 9/11 and Beyond

10. Sep, 2009

By: Alan Sabrosky*

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_911zion_03.htm

[...] A significant development in the 1990s was the formation of the
neo-conservative think tank known as PNAC (Project for a New American
Century), whose members prepared position papers for the Israeli
government and for a future US Administration sharing their views. That
happened in 2000 with the election of George W. Bush, and a contemporary
writer summarized the tip of the neo-conservative iceberg in his first
Administration this way:

The "outsiders" from PNAC were now powerful "insiders," placed in
important positions from which they could exert maximum pressure on U.S.
policy [...]

Far more significant in terms of subsequent events was the
acknowledgement in one of PNAC's own documents that their program for
America (and Israel) would not readily be accepted by the American
people. What this meant, PNAC opined in 2000, was that "the process of
transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be
a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new
Pearl Harbor." ...

On September 11, 2001, the PNAC people in and out of government - and by
extension AIPAC and Israel - "coincidentally" got the event they needed,
barely eight months after coming into office. [...]

Even more unbelievable is the "coincidental" salvage of an intact
passport presumably belonging to one of the hijackers inside the plane
that hit WTC2 - and this was how the official 9/11 Commission report
described it:

The passport was recovered by NYPD Detective Yuk H. Chin from a male
passerby in a business suit, about 30 years old. The passerby left
before being identified, while debris was falling from WTC 2. The tower
collapsed shortly afterwards. The detective then gave the passport to
the FBI on 9/11.

Reflections

Several things are very clear to me from a careful assessment of both
official and critical evaluations of the 9/11 attacks. First, the
striking aircraft alone simply could not have brought down either of the
two buildings in the manner in which they fell, much less a third
building which was not hit by a plane (I expect the one intended to do
that as a "cover" had ended up in that Pennsylvania field), given the
available physical evidence and a wealth of expert testimony. This means
the attackers had assistance on the ground, and it had to have been
active before the attacks occurred: preparing buildings for controlled
demolition is not something done haphazardly in the midst of chaos.

Second, only two intelligence agencies had the expertise, assets, access
and political protection to execute 9/11 in the air and on the ground:
our CIA and Israel's Mossad. Only one had the incentive, using the "who
benefits" principle: Mossad. And that incentive dovetailed perfectly
with the neo-con's agenda and explicitly expressed need for a catalytic
event to mobilize the American public for their wars, using American
military power to destroy Israel's enemies. [...]

Finally, we need to take a hard look at why the mainstream media (MSM)
have paid more attention to Sarah Palin's wardrobe than they have to
dissecting blatant falsehoods, discrepancies and inconsistencies in the
US Government's treatment of 9/11 and its aftermath. And the reason is
that on this issue, all are on the same side, and the official line is
the one they all prefer - "all" meaning the PNAC alumni who took over
the Bush Administration's national security apparatus and their
counterparts in the Obama administration, AIPAC and the rest of the
numerous Jewish PACs, the MSM owners and Israel. The depiction of the
media management in America in 2002 is especially informative, and has
not changed significantly since then:

CEOs and Directors of companies change as often as Boards of Directors
vote. But if we could "freeze frame" the CEOs of the largest US Media
companies in mid 2002, we would find that ten Jewish American men ran
the vast majority of US television networks and other media companies
including movies, radio, and publishing at that time. Not much has
changed today.

{see the graphic detailing Jewish media ownership at
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_sociopol/911zion03_02.jpg }

(5) Sabrosky: 19 named Arabs on 4 planes "at best incomplete, and at
worst a complete fabrication"

Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake, by Dr. Alan Sabrosky

https://dissidentvoice.org/2011/06/demystifying-911-israel-and-the-tactics-of-mistake/

Demystifying 9/11: Israel and the Tactics of Mistake

by Dr. Alan Sabrosky

Tuesday, June 28th, 2011

[...] I am also absolutely certain as a strategic analyst that 9/11
itself, from which all else flows, was a classic Mossad-orchestrated
operation. But Mossad did not do it alone. They needed local help within
America (and perhaps elsewhere) and they had it, principally from some
alumni of PNAC (the misnamed Project for a New American Century) and
their affiliates within and outside of the US Government (USG), who in
the 9/11 attacks got the "catalytic event" they needed and craved to
take the US to war on Israel's behalf, only eight months after coming
into office. [...]

Second only to the actual controlled demolition of WTC-7, and
supplementing the thesis that with or without impacting aircraft the
buildings were brought down by other means, is extensive extensive
audio-visual evidence on 9/11 while the Twin Towers were still standing
from what became "Ground Zero." This evidence includes real-time clips
of secondary explosions at ground level in both WTC-1 and WTC-2 (you can
hear the detonations and see smoke and debris billowing out), reports on
many networks of those explosions and of strange vans inside and around
those buildings prior to the secondary explosions, reports from EMTs
(Emergency Medical Technicians) of the same thing and of people inside
and around the lobbies of those buildings who were not emergency
personal and were not fleeing the disaster – all of this on 9/11 and
widely reported as it happened that same day. And a third element,
building on the above and adding its own dimension, is the presence of a
number of (mostly white) vans owned – as far as can be determined, given
the extent to which information on them and the people with them has
disappeared from the public record – by an Israeli company (or rather a
company owned by an Israeli, to be precise) in New Jersey. Some of these
vans were regularly around the World Trade Center itself. But two stand
out, and need to be examined in some detail for their significance to be
appreciated.

First, Bergen, NJ residents saw five people on a white van filming the
attacks and visibly celebrating. They had set up their cameras before
the first plane hit. Police arrested them. All were Israelis (now
referred to as the "dancing Israelis"). Bomb-sniffing dogs reacted as if
they had detected explosives, although officers were unable to find
anything. The FBI seized the van for further testing. All five were
later released at the instigation of Israeli & American Jewish leaders,
some in the US Government. Details are still classified. This incident
quickly disappeared from the mainstream media, following a brief mention
in the New York Times three days after the attacks, that was not
followed up.

A second van was stopped on the approaches to the George Washington
Bridge. As CBS's Dan Rather said in his live report: "Two suspects are
in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives were discovered around
the George Washington Bridge. That bridge links New York to New Jersey
over the Hudson River. Whether the discovery of those explosives had
anything to do with other events today is unclear, but the FBI, has two
suspects in hand, said the truckload of explosives, enough explosives
were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge."
Those suspects – also Israelis - and the incident then seem to have
disappeared from the public record and mainstream media "examinations"
<sic.> of 9/11, just like discussions of the first van, the secondary
explosions at ground level within WTC-1 and WTC-2, and the precipitous
collapse into its own footprint of WTC-7.

The combined impact of these and many other factors is both chilling and
compelling. Think of it: Secondary explosions at ground level where
there should be no secondary explosions. The catastrophic collapse of
the 47-story WTC-7 into its own footprint in seconds, without any
significant external trauma, where by rights there should have been no
collapse. Vans with targeting maps, explosives or traces thereof,
cameras pre-positioned to film the World Trade Center, and especially
Israelis with those vans where there should have been no Israelis
present with any of those things in those places at that time.

Any of these matters ought to have been sufficient to stimulate a
searching re-examination of the official USG interpretation of 9/11, and
especially of the actual or putative role of Al-Qaeda in it. The vans
alone pointed away from Al-Qaeda, unless one assumed that Al-Qaeda was
an Israeli front, or that Mossad at a minimum had run a parallel and
more murderous operation to whatever Al-Qaeda may have done. What is
fascinating is how little impact it has had on public awareness of the
details of 9/11, much less official US policy based on it. A "cloak of
silence" had descended over any official or mainstream media discussions
of 9/11 that did not conform to the official interpretation, thereby
keeping such dissonance from the general public.

The Cloak of Silence Over 9/11

There have been three elements to the "cloak of silence" covering
efforts to expose the failings of the official US position on 9/11 to
the public. One is within the Executive Branch. Another is within the
Congress. And the third is the mainstream media (MSM).

The first is not at all surprising, as so many of its key members (and
especially its so-called "neo-conservatives") were the authors of the
"19 named Arabs in 4 planes" thesis, and its de facto apologists on the
professional staff of the 9/11 Commission. Indeed, many of them had a
vested personal and professional interest in maintaining the validity of
the official position.

[...] Israel ... is the one state with a positive incentive, if it
believed it could get away with it, which is to enrage the American
public against Muslims generally and Arabs in particular, and to make
the US an active belligerent in the region – spending American lives and
treasure in the service of Israel's interests.

Expertise is different and more diffuse. There are many intelligence and
special operations forces in the world with the expertise to wire large
urban structures for a controlled demolition. There are many combat
engineer units in many countries that could do the same thing. And there
are many private firms that specialize in them as well. Yet neither
Al-Qaeda as an organization, nor any of its known affiliates – much less
the 19 named Arabs supposedly on those four planes – possessed that
expertise, or anything even remotely close to it; had they done so, the
Green Zone in Baghdad would have been a pile of rubble.

But it is local support that is the crucial determinant. All
well-crafted covert operations require some measure of local support,
official or unofficial, unless the target area is so irredeemably
hostile that none is available. Any domestic or foreign intelligence
agency targeting the WTC would absolutely have required it, and Mossad
would be better placed than any other to access such support for entry,
access, execution and escape.

This is especially true, given the security company overseeing the WTC.
CIA and/or Defense Department personnel (which is not the same as the
CIA or the Defense Department as organizations) could have had access,
but only if that had Israeli endorsement – one does not casually cut
open walls, implant explosives, run cables and wire everything together
in buildings with state-of-the-art electronic surveillance and 24/7
on-site security. Mossad would have no such need for those niceties,
given the ownership of the WTC and the management of the company
overseeing its security. Remember that we are not talking about large
numbers of people in any case: given time to prepare the three buildings
and protection from detection, as few as a dozen could have sufficed, a
number small enough to be effectively unnoticed in a large organization.

Retrospect and Prospect

So let us recapitulate the basic conclusions of this analysis. First,
the core official US Government position on 9/11 is that any and all
aspects of it are directly attributable to 19 named Arabs on 4 planes,
conducting a terrorist operation planned and executed by Osama bin
Laden's Al-Qaeda. This position is at best incomplete, and at worst a
complete fabrication engineered by those directly or indirectly
responsible for what happened on 9/11, and the wars afterward.

[...] Al-Qaeda – and perhaps other groups as well – had the theoretical
capability to carry out a simultaneous four-plane hijacking, perhaps
flying the aircraft to Cuba (the four 9/11 aircraft should have been
able to make a one-way flight there at the beginning of their
operational day without difficulty, depending on their actual loads),
which would have been spectacular in itself. But neither Al-Qaeda nor
any of their affiliates had the expertise and local support necessary to
allow them the needed access to any of the buildings at the World Trade
Center, to cut open the walls and wire them for controlled demolition,
and then to escape and evade afterward.

[...] Given the pervasiveness of Zionist influence in the US government
and its intelligence and security agencies (including of course the
Defense Department), two broad scenarios are possible. One is that the
neo-cons and their cohorts were in the driver's seat with Israel in the
passenger seat with a map and the baggage. The second sees Israel
driving with the neo-cons and others handling the map and baggage. But
they were both in the same car on the road to and from 9/11. Both were
embedded in aspects of the planning and execution of the catastrophe,
the wars it spawned and the wars its architects now want us to wage in
Israel's name, linking treason and treachery in tandem no matter where
the emphasis is placed.

(6) Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" were alive and well after 911 -
they were victims of identity theft

911 Hijackers' Stolen Identities

STRANGER THAN FICTION AN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF 9-11 AND THE WAR
ON TERRORISM

http://www.apfn.org/apfN/WTC_STF.htm

by Anonymous ...

Hours after the 9-11 attacks, authorities began to find clues
conveniently left for them to stumble upon. The Boston Globe reported
that a copy of the Koran, instructions on how to fly a commercial
airplane and a fuel consumption calculator were found in a pair of bags
meant for one of the hijacked flights that left from Logan. 64

Authorities also received a "tip" about a suspicious white car left
behind at Boston's Logan Airport. An Arabic-language flight training
manual was found inside the car. 65

How fortunate for investigators that the hijackers "forgot" to take
their Koran and Arab flight manuals with them! Within a few days, all
"19 hijackers" were "identified" and their faces were plastered all over
our television screens.

Then, like a script from a corny "B" spy movie, the official story gets
even more ridiculous. The passport of the supposed "ringleader" Mohammed
Atta, somehow managed to survive the explosion, inferno, and smoldering
collapse to be oh-so-conveniently "found" just a few blocks away from
the World Trade Center! 66

It is obvious that this "evidence" was planted by individuals wishing to
direct the blame towards Osama Bin Laden. How is it possible that Arab
students who had never flown an airplane could take a simulator course
and then fly jumbo jets with the skill and precision of "top-gun"
pilots? It is not possible and the fact is, the true identities of the
9-11 hijackers remains a mystery. In the days following the disclosure
of the "hijackers" names and faces, no less than 7 of the Arab
individuals named came forward to protest their obvious innocence. 67

That's right! Seven of the nineteen "hijackers" are alive and well. They
were victims of identity theft, some of whom had had their passports
stolen. They were interviewed by several news organizations including
the Telegraph of England. [...]

What kind of a corrupt character is FBI boss Mueller? He initially
admitted that false identities were involved with 9-11, but then he
allows the media to keep naming these innocent, and alive, Arabs as the
hijackers? Why doesn't he correct them? More on the slimy Mr. Mueller
later on!

Now I'm really going to rock your faith in the false religion of 9-11.
In February of 2000, Indian intelligence officials detained 11 members
of what they thought was an Al Qaeda hijacking conspiracy. It was then
discovered that these 11 "Muslim preachers" were all Israeli nationals!
India's leading weekly magazine, The Week, reported:

On January 12 Indian intelligence officials in Calcutta detained 11
foreign nationals for interrogation before they were to board a
Dhaka-bound Bangladesh Biman flight. They were detained on the suspicion
of being hijackers. "But we realized that they were tabliqis (Islamic
preachers), so we let them go", said an Intelligence official.

The eleven had Israeli passports but were believed to be Afghan
nationals who had spent a while in Iran. Indian intelligence officials,
too, were surprised by the nationality profile of the eleven. "They say
that they have been on tabligh (preaching Islam) in India for two
months. But they are Israeli nationals from the West Bank," said a
Central Intelligence official. He claimed that Tel Aviv "exerted
considerable pressure" on Delhi to secure their release. "It appeared
that they could be working for a sensitive organization in Israel and
were on a mission to Bangladesh," the official said. 72 (emphasis added)

What were these 11 Israelis doing trying to impersonate Al Qaeda men?
Infiltrating?...perhaps. Framing?...more likely. But the important
precedent to understand is this: Israeli agents were once caught red
handed impersonating Muslim hijackers! [...]

Now about Mohamed Atta, you know, the so-called "ring leader". There are
a number of inconsistencies with that story as well. Like some of the 7
hijackers known to be still alive, Atta also had his passport stolen in
1999, 75 (the same passport that miraculously survived the WTC explosion
and collapse?) making him an easy mark for an identity theft. Atta was
known to all as a shy, timid, and sheltered young man who was
uncomfortable with women. 76 The 5 foot 7 inch, 150 pound architecture
student was such a "goody two shoes" that some of his university
acquaintances in Germany refrained from drinking or cursing in front of
him. How this gentle, non-political mamma's boy from a good Egyptian
family suddenly transformed himself into the vodka drinking, go-go girl
groping terrorist animal described by the media, has to rank as the
greatest personality change since another classic work of fiction, Dr.
Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Atta, or someone using Atta's identity, had enrolled in a Florida flight
school in 2001 and then broke off his training, making it a point to
tell his instructor he was leaving for Boston. In an October 2001
interview with an ABC affiliate in Florida, flight school president Rudi
Dekkers said that his course does not qualify pilots to fly commercial
jumbo jets. 77 He also described Atta as "an asshole". 78 Part of the
reason for Dekker's dislike for Atta stems from a highly unusual
incident that occurred at the beginning of the course. Here's the
exchange between ABC producer Quentin McDermott and Dekkers:

MCDERMOTT: "Why do you say Atta was an asshole?"

DEKKERS: "Well, when Atta was here and I saw his face on several
occasions in the building, then I know that they're regular students and
then I try to talk to them, it's kind of a PR - where are you from? I
tried to communicate with him. I found out from my people that he lived
in Hamburg and he spoke German so one of the days that I saw him, I
speak German myself, I'm a Dutch citizen, and I started in the morning
telling him in German, "Good morning. How are you? How do you like the
coffee? Are you happy here?", and he looked at me with cold eyes, didn't
react at all and walked away. That was one of my first meetings I had." 79

This is eerily similar to the way in which Zacharias Moussaoui (the
so-called "20th hijacker") became "belligerent" when his Minnesota
flight instructor tried to speak to him in French (his first language),
at the beginning of that course. The Minnessota Star Tribune reported on
December 21, 2001:

"Moussaoui first raised eyebrows when, during a simple introductory
exchange, he said he was from France, but then didn't seem to understand
when the instructor spoke French to him. Moussaoui then became
belligerent and evasive about his background, (Congressman) Oberstar and
other sources said. In addition, he seemed inept in basic flying
procedure, while seeking expensive training on an advanced commercial
jet simulator." 80 (emphasis added)

It truly is an amazing twist of fate that both Atta and Moussaoui both
had American flight instructors who spoke German and French
respectively. Even the great Mossad could not have foreseen such a
coincidence! The real Atta would have been able to respond to his
instructor's German small talk and the real Moussaoui would have been
able to respond to his instructor's French small talk. Atta just walked
away and Moussaoui threw a fit! Neither responded because neither could.
They were imposters, whose faces were probably disguised by a make up
artist. Their mission was to frame the two innocent Arabs who were
probably targeted by the Mossad at random.

The imposter was able to create a new Atta by using Atta's stolen
passport from 1999 - the same passport that floated safely to the ground
with a few burnt edges on 9-11. These strange inconsistencies tend to
give support to Mohammed Atta's father's claim that he spoke over the
phone with his son on September 12th, the day after the attacks. 81
Could a group of professionals have abducted and killed the real Atta in
the days following the 9-11 attacks? Mossad agents, posing as "art
students" were arrested after conducting some type of operation in
Hollywood, Florida, the same small town that Atta stayed in! 82 So what
happened to the real Mohammed Atta? To quote his grief stricken father:
"Ask Mossad!".

So who, if not the "19 Arabs" was on those planes? That's the million
dollar question! ...

(7) Stolen Identities: Saudi Prince says seven alleged Hijackers are
ALIVE (Sept 23 '01)

Saudi Prince Says Seven Saudis on FBI List Innocent

Reuters News Wire: 09/23/2001 12:25 am ET

NO LONGER AT http://abcnews.go.com/wire/world/reuters20010923_147.html

BUT ORIGINAL IS PRESERVED in one place only AT
http://web.archive.org/web/20011108050830/http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/reuters20010923_147.html

DUBAI (Reuters) - Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef said in remarks
published Sunday that seven Saudis named by the FBI as suspects in the
attacks on the United States were innocent.

The official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) quoted Prince Nayef as telling the
U.S. television network CNN in an interview that the United States had
not given any confirmation to the kingdom that Saudis had been involved
in the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

"As for the names that have been published or provided to us by the FBI,
there are seven names of people who did not participate and are present
in the kingdom and who are known (to us)," SPA quoted Prince Nayef as
saying.

"There are more than 10 other names, possibly 15, whom we still have no
detailed information on, either their four (full) names, pictures,
passports or personal identity cards, to be able to verify if they are
Saudis or not," he said. [...]

Saudi newspapers have published interviews and pictures of at least five
of those who appeared on the FBI list since it was released Friday.

Many Saudis share the same name, reflecting their common membership of
large tribes. But some who share the same name as the suspects were
alarmed to see their own faces staring back at them from newspapers and
television networks which published photographs and personal details of
the alleged perpetrators.

Copyright 2001 Reuters News Service. All rights reserved. This material
may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

(8) Stolen Identities: UK Telegraph interviews four 9/11 Hijackers,
ALIVE (Sept 23, '01)
{The Telegraph assumes that their identities were stolen by Bin Laden.
The prospect that Mossad might have done it is not considered. Yet, New
Zealand broke off diplomatic relations with Israel over Mossad using its
passports. And the Dubai assassination shows Mossad's track record -
Peter M}

Revealed: the men with stolen identities

By David Harrison Published: 12:01AM BST 23 Sep 2001

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/1341391/Revealed-the-men-with-stolen-identities.html

THEIR names were flashed around the world as suicide hijackers who
carried out the attacks on America. But yesterday four innocent men told
how their identities had been stolen by Osama bin Laden's teams to cover
their tracks.

The men - all from Saudi Arabia - spoke of their shock at being
mistakenly named by the FBI as suicide terrorists. None of the four was
in the United States on September 11 and all are alive in their home
country.

The Telegraph obtained the first interviews with the men since they
learnt that they were on the FBI's list of hijackers who died in the
crashes in New York, Washington and Pennsylvania.

All four said that they were "outraged" to be identified as terrorists.
One has never been to America and another is a Saudi Airlines pilot who
was on a training course in Tunisia at the time of the attacks.

Saudi Airlines said it was considering legal action against the FBI for
seriously damaging its reputation and that of its pilots. The FBI
released the list of 19 suicide terrorists three days after the attacks.

The statement said that the 19 "have been identified as hijackers aboard
the four airliners". Photographs and personal details were published
around the world with an appeal for "information about these
individuals, even though they are presumed dead".

The Saudi Airlines pilot, Saeed Al-Ghamdi, 25, and Abdulaziz Al-Omari,
an engineer from Riyadh, are furious that the hijackers' "personal
details" - including name, place, date of birth and occupation - matched
their own.

Mr Al-Ghamdi was named as a terrorist on the United Airlines flight that
crashed in Pennsylvania - a plane said by some experts to have been
heading for the White House.

He first knew that he was on the FBI's list when he was told by a
colleague. Speaking from Tunisia, he said: "I was completely shocked.
For the past 10 months I have been based in Tunis with 22 other pilots
learning to fly an Airbus 320. The FBI provided no evidence of my
presumed involvement in the attacks.

"You cannot imagine what it is like to be described as a terrorist - and
a dead man - when you are innocent and alive." The airline was angry
too. Officials brought Mr Al-Ghamdi back to Saudi Arabia last week for a
10-day holiday to avoid arrest or interrogation.

An official said: "We are consulting lawyers about what action to take
to protect the reputation of our pilots." Mr Al-Ghamdi faced further
embarrassment when CNN, the American television network, flashed a
photograph of him around the world, naming him as a hijack suspect.

The FBI had published his personal details but with a photograph of
somebody else, presumably a hijacker who had "stolen" his identity. CNN,
however, showed a picture of the real Mr Al-Ghamdi.

He said that CNN had probably got the picture from the Flight Safety
flying school he attended in Florida. CNN has since broadcast a
clarification saying that the photograph may not be that of the accused.

Mr Al-Omari, who was accused of hijacking the American Airlines plane
that smashed into the the World Trade Centre's north tower, said that he
was at his desk at the Saudi telecommunications authority in Riyadh when
the attacks took place.

He said: "I couldn't believe it when the FBI put me on their list. They
gave my name and my date of birth, but I am not a suicide bomber. I am
here. I am alive. I have no idea how to fly a plane. I had nothing to do
with this."

{Question: then who impersonated him at the Flight Safety School? The
FBI had his photo}

Mr Al-Omari said his passport was stolen when his apartment in Denver,
Colorado, was burgled in 1995. He had been studying engineering at
Denver University since 1993. He was given a new passport in Riyadh on
December 31, 1995 and returned to America to resume his studies in
January 1996. After graduating last year he returned to Riyadh to join
the electricity authority and later moved to the telecommunications
authority.

The other two men accused of being terrorists are Salem Al-Hamzi and
Ahmed Al-Nami. Mr Al-Hamzi is 26 and had just returned to work at a
petrochemical complex in the industrial eastern city of Yanbou after a
holiday in Saudi Arabia when the hijackers struck. He was accused of
hijacking the American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon.

He said: "I have never been to the United States and have not been out
of Saudi Arabia in the past two years." The FBI described him as 21 and
said that his possible residences were Fort Lee or Wayne, both in New
Jersey.

Mr Al-Nami, 33, from Riyadh, an administrative supervisor with Saudi
Arabian Airlines, said that he was in Riyadh when the terrorists struck.

He said: "I'm still alive, as you can see. I was shocked to see my name
mentioned by the American Justice Department. I had never even heard of
Pennsylvania where the plane I was supposed to have hijacked."

He had never lost his passport and found it "very worrying" that his
identity appeared to have been "stolen" and published by the FBI without
any checks. The FBI had said his "possible residence" was Delray Beach
in Florida.

Last night the FBI admitted that there was some doubt about the
identities of some of the suspects. A spokesman said: "The
identification process has been complicated by the fact that many Arabic
family names are similar. It is also possible that the hijackers used
false identities."

The spokesman declined to say whether the FBI would apologise but added:
"If we have made mistakes then obviously that would be regrettable but
this is a big and complicated investigation."

When the list was published Robert Mueller, the FBI director, said that
it was "fairly confident" that the names were not aliases.

(9) Mossad uses stolen identities of living people, for Assassinations
(Australia, New Zealand)

Mossad's Murderous Reach: The Larger Political Issues

by James Petras February 22nd, 2010

http://dissidentvoice.org/2010/02/mossad%E2%80%99s-murderous-reach-the-larger-political-issues/

On January 19 Israel's international secret police, the Mossad, sent an
eighteen member death squad to Dubai using European passports,
supposedly 'stolen' from Israeli dual citizens and altered with fake
photos and signatures, in order to assassinate the Palestinian leader,
Mahmoud al Mabhouh. ...

Israel has a publicly-stated policy of violating the sovereignty of any
and all countries in order to kill or abduct its opponents. ...

Israel's practice of extra-judicial, extra-territorial assassinations,
exemplified by the recent murder of Mahmoud al Mabhouh in a Dubai hotel
room, violates all the fundamental precepts of the rule of law. ==

Israel Mossad 'factory' churned out fake Australian passports

Friday, 26 February 2010 by Sameh A. Habeeb

http://www.paltelegraph.com/world/world-news/4404-israel-mossad-factory-
churned-out-fake-australian-passports

Palestine, Feb. 26, 2010 (Pal Telegraph)- A former Mossad officer has
alleged the Israeli spy agency has its own "passport factory" to create
or doctor passports for use in intelligence operations. ==

New Zealand broke off diplomatic relations with Israel over Mossad use
of its passports

The Mossad hit and Israel's path of self-destruction Hasan Abu Nimah The
Electronic Intifada 25 February 2010

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11100.shtml

Several years ago, New Zealand, a country of three million people, broke
off diplomatic relations with Israel over the use of its passports by
Mossad.==

Israel waging a covert assassination campaign across the Middle East

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article7025821.ece

Israel is accused of waging covert war across the Middle East Sheera
Frenkel in Jerusalem The Times (Britain) February 13, 2010

Israel is waging a covert assassination campaign across the Middle East
in an effort to stop its key enemies co-ordinating their activities.

Israeli agents have been targeting meetings between members of Hamas and
the leadership of the militant Hezbollah group, and the Iranian
Revolutionary Guards.

(10) Mohamed Atta's father says he's still alive, blames Mossad for 9/11

This material is from 2001-2; but should be reviewed in the light of the
identity theft in the Dubai assassination. Mohamad Atta's father now
says that his son has been killed by Mossad, to stop him talking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Atta

Mohamed Atta

... Family reaction

Atta's father, Mohamed el-Amir Awad el-Sayed Atta, a retired lawyer in
Egypt rejected allegations his son was involved in the September 11
attacks and instead accuses Mossad of having a hand in framing his
son.[28] Atta Sr. rejected media reports his son was drinking wildly,
and instead described his son as a quiet boy uninvolved in politics, shy
and devoted to studying architecture.[89] The elder Mr. Atta also claims
to have spoken with Mohamed by phone two days after the air crashes of
the September 11th. He held interviews with the German news magazine
Bild am Sonntag in late 2002 claiming his son is alive, and in hiding.
Critics [which critics?] have suggested Mr. Atta fabricated his claims
of speaking with his son after September 11, 2001 and saying his son is
alive, in denial of his son's role in the 9/11 attacks.[90][Reference
does not support statement]

[edit]Notes 28.^ a b Lappin, Elena (2002-08-29). "Portrait: Atta in
Hamburg" . Prospect. Retrieved 2008-09-16. 90.^ Connolly, Kate
(2002-09-02). "Father insists alleged leader of attack on WTC is still
alive" . The Guardian. Retrieved 2008-09-16. ...

This page was last modified on 26 March 2010 at 17:16. ==

Father insists alleged leader is still alive

Kate Connolly in Berlin

The Guardian, Monday 2 September 2002 01.28 BST

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/sep/02/september11.usa

The father of Mohammed Atta, the alleged ringleader of the September 11
attacks, said in an interview published yesterday that his son was still
alive.

"He is hiding in a secret place so as not to be murdered by the US
secret services," Mohammed el-Amir Atta, 66, told the German newspaper
Bild am Sonntag. He also vehemently denied that his son - believed to
have flown the first plane into the World Trade Centre - had taken part
in the atrocities, blaming them instead on "American Christians".

The interview painted a picture of a tortured man who has not come to
terms with his 33-year-old son's death or with the huge crime laid at
his door. He said he feared the US would try to poison him.

Speaking from his Cairo home, Mr Atta described hearing about the
attacks after returning from a holiday on the Red Sea on the evening of
September 12. "My daughter called and said she was going to drop in. She
stood at the door and said 'turn on the TV'," he said. Amid images of
the jets crashing into the Twin Towers, he saw his son's passport
photograph.

"As I saw the picture of my son," he said, "I knew that he hadn't done
it. My son called me the day after the attacks on September 12 at around
midday. We spoke for two minutes about this and that.

"He didn't tell me where he was calling from. At that time neither of us
knew anything about the attacks."

Mr Atta said he did not condone the attacks, but could understand the
hijackers' motivation. "Every day our Palestinian brothers are being
murdered, their houses destroyed. If their relatives were to fly a plane
into the Empire State Building I couldn't hold it against them," he added.

Mr Atta called his son a "gentle and tender boy", who enjoyed reading
history and geography books and was nicknamed "Bolbol", or nightingale,
by his parents. ==

Atta in Hamburg

ELENA LAPPIN

Prospect Magazine 20th September 2002 - Issue 78

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/2002/09/attainhamburg/

He is a man with a grudge. In interviews with foreign journalists - to
whom he serves alcohol-free beer - he rants about America, without
answering or listening to questions. He accuses the Mossad of being
responsible for 11th September, and of framing his son, from whom he
claims to have received a phone call, "checking in," 24 and 48 hours
after the attacks. ==

(11) Atta's girlfriend: he loved pork chops, was already a licensed
pilot, could speak Hebrew, had been in "some kind of militia"

Mohammad Atta's girlfriend Amanda Keller interviewed by Daniel Hopsiker
, author of Welcome to Terrorland: Mohamed Atta the 9-11 Cover-up in
Florida (video):: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSKV65zsbsk

Mohamed Atta loved pork chops, and 49 other things you may not know
about the 9/11 Florida connection.

{visit the webpage to access the links}

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1433886

I just finished Daniel Hopsicker's Welcome to Terrorland. He exposes the
cover story of the Florida flight schools, and the ongoing cover-up. ...
And FYI, here are some notes I kept while reading the book:

1. In Venice Florida, Mohamed Atta lived for two months with an American
stripper/lingerie model named Amanda Keller.

2. Atta loved to party. He was out with Keller nearly every night they
were together. He was a heavy drinker, snorted coke, was a stylish
dresser and wore expensive jewelry.

3. According to Keller, Atta loved pork chops.

4. Keller dumped him after he embarrassed her at a night club by
dancing, poorly, atop a speaker ("doing that old 'Roxbury head bob'
thing, you know"?)

5. Atta revenged himself later on Keller by returning to the apartment
they'd shared and killing her cat and kittens, disemboweling and
dismembering them in her apartment for her to find.

6. In Miami, Atta consorted with women known to be linked to the Mafia.

7. Atta's email list included names of people who worked for defense
contractors. One, for instance, worked for Canadian firm Virtual
Prototypes, which helped develop the avionics for F-15, F-22 and B-2.

8. Atta was enrolled as a student at the International Officer's School
of Maxwell Airforce Base, and witnesses recall him having been
introduced around at an officers' club party.

9. Atta was fluent in at least Arabic, English, German, French and Hebrew.

10. One day when Atta was rummaging through his flight bag, Keller got a
look inside. Her words:

"The thing the FBI was most interested in was his pilot bag. They asked
about it a lot. He kept it locked, and they wanted to know whether I had
ever seen anything in it. I told them yes. One day he opened it briefly,
and there were a lot of papers in it, and there was a blue log book in a
different language. Mohamed was fluent in almost any language you can
think of. He had a kind of Daytimer in there, too. And a folder with all
these different ID's in it. And that's when I saw one - because it fell
out - a little blue and white thing the size of a driver's license. It
had his picture on it, and it looked like a mug shot, or a prison shot.
And it didn't look like him, and I asked him, 'Who is this?'

"And he said, 'that's me.' He told me it had been taken back when he was
in some kind of militia-type deal, like a military-type deal, he said.
He compared it to our military only they teach you different tactics. He
didn't elaborate.

"He didn't say where it was from, either. But the writing looked like a
cross between Hebrew and Arabic, those frilly little lines. He told me
he spoke Hebrew. I said bullshit. So he started speaking it, and I guess
he did.

"He told me that he went to different countries and studied. He had
pilot's license from several different countries. But all the pictures
looked different. All the names were different. He had a license to fly
from just about every country he had been to. He went to pilot's school
in all these countries."

11. Atta, Keller, a stripper named Linda and two Germans, Peter and
Johan, partied for three days in Key West. Atta paid for everything.
Rented three rooms, one just for the men's luggage, which Keller says
contained drugs. The men had a business meeting the women were not
permitted to attend. Met with people, Keller says, who flew in just to
meet Atta. Somber and quiet after meeting. (Key West Airport a known
drug transit point. The Sheriff used to be under orders to keep the dope
sniffing dogs off airplanes, and at one time even sent patrol cars to
escort the drugs to Miami.) [...]

(12) Hijackers' last letter, found in baggage, shows ignorance of Islam
- Robert Fisk

What Muslim Would Write: 'The Time of Fun and Waste is Gone'?

by Robert Fisk

Published on September 29, 2001 in the Independent/UK

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0929-07.htm

Fearful, chilling, grotesque- but also very, very odd. If the
handwritten, five-page document which the FBI says it found in the
baggage of Mohamed Atta, the suicide bomber from Egypt, is genuine, then
the men who murdered more than 7,000 innocent people believed in a very
exclusive version of Islam - or were surprisingly unfamiliar with their
religion.

"The time of Fun and waste is gone," Atta, or one of his associates, is
reported to have written in the note. "Be optimistic ... Check all your
items - your bag, your clothes, your knives, your will, your IDs, your
passport ... In the morning, try to pray the morning prayer with an open
heart."

Part theological, part mission statement, the document - extracts from
which were published in The Washington Post yesterday - raises more
questions than it answers.

Under the heading of "Last Night" - presumably the night of 10 September
- the writer tells his fellow hijackers to "remind yourself that in this
night you will face many challenges. But you have to face them and
understand it 100 per cent ... Obey God, his messenger, and don't fight
among yourself [sic] where [sic] you become weak ... Everybody hates
death, fears death ..."

The document begins with the words: "In the name of God, the most
merciful, the most compassionate ... In the name of God, of myself, and
of my family."

The problem is that no Muslim - however ill-taught - would include his
family in such a prayer. Indeed, he would mention the Prophet Mohamed
immediately after he mentioned God in the first line. Lebanese and
Palestinian suicide bombers have never been known to refer to "the time
of fun and waste" - because a true Muslim would not have "wasted" his
time and would regard pleasure as a reward of the after-life.

And what Muslim would urge his fellow believers to recite the morning
prayer - and then go on to quote from it? A devout Muslim would not need
to be reminded of his duty to say the first of the five prayers of the
day - and would certainly not need to be reminded of the text. It is as
if a Christian, urging his followers to recite the Lord's Prayer, felt
it necessary to read the whole prayer in case they didn't remember it. ...

(13) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -1

Subject: Re: 911 Mossad ran Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen
From: David West <dgwest7@gmail.com>

I am sure you know already Peter that there were "no planes/" involved
in the 9/11 incident.

See
https://sites.google.com/site/humanevolution2008/clearing-out-1/no-planes-on-911

But the sentence here that got my goat more than any other was
"eventually culminate in their being on board four regularly-scheduled
flights originating in Boston, Washington Dulles, and Newark, New Jersey
on 9/11."

When Gerard Holmgren researched details of the four planes said to be
involved, he discovered from the government's own BTS statistics that
two of them never took off, but additionally that one of them wasn't
even scheduled that day.

Apparently 11th September was the day that one timetable ended, and a
new one started, with one of the named Sunday flights not included in
the new schedule.

So we can see that either this report from Wayne Madsen is not properly
researched, or more likely, that the secret services pass fake
information to each other. I believe a copy of the data as shown on the
original BTS website is available from
<https://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa_flts/aa_flts.htm> Serendipity.

Of course the 9/11 perpetrators changed the data as soon as this
knowledge became public, but I did see it myself before it was changed,
so I am aware of these facts.

(14) 911 No Planes Debate - from David West -2
Subject: Re: 911 Mossad ran Arab hijacker cells - WIKILEAKS/ Madsen
From: David West <dgwest7@gmail.com>

 > Which two never took off?

The two unscheduled flights were AA11 which purportedly hit the North
tower and AA77 which purportedly hit the Pentagon.

Understanding that no planes were involved solves the major unanswered
mysteries -

Why the airforce didn't intercept these planes

why was no plane wreckage or black boxes ever found

why were there no Arabs on any of the flight lists (none of which were
issued by the airlines)

This also helps enormously to work out which stories are true and which
were fake.

For example Pilotsfor911 is a fake organisation. I wrote to them many
times, with no reply, for obvious reasons.

If you need to get up to speed with the real facts, at least read the
interview below, and maybe see the full details on my website

https://sites.google.com/site/humanevolution2008/clearing-out-1/no-planes-on-911

Or ask John Lear of Lear jets what he thinks.

(15) 911 No Planes Debate - reply to David West
I've read what John Lear says.

But I also did a Skype call with Field McConnell, a former US airforce
pilot (flew F4s & F16s) and former airline captain (747-400).

The pilot of American 77, which supposedly hit the Pentagon, was a
friend of his.

In fact, a missile hit the Pentagon.

McConnell says that AA77 was switched and, he says, detonated over the
Atlantic Ocean.

Certainly he believes that it took off; his friend the pilot disappeared
that day.

This sort of "decoy plane" was first advocated in Operation Northwoods,
in 1961.