123 Israeli media tycoon Haim Saban offers to buy Al-Jazeera from Qatar

(1) Chinese Intelligence Activity - Michael McDonnell reply to Tony Ryan
(2) US public hawkish on Iran - Pew poll
(3) 56% of American Jews want US to attack Iran - AJC poll
(4) Israeli media tycoon Haim Saban offers to buy Al-Jazeera from the government of Qatar
(5) Haim Saban negotiating purchase of 50% of al-Jazeera
(6) Israel not after real peace, but only to allay Western criticism & Palestinian uprising
(7) Israeli police on alert as Palestinians call strike in defence of Al-Aqsa mosque
(8) Orthodox Haredi taking over Zionism in Israel
(9) Secular Jews as The Messiah's Donkey

(1) Chinese Intelligence Activity - Michael McDonnell reply to Tony Ryan
From: Michael McDonnell <mmcd@mmnet.com.au> Date: 09.10.2009 10:20 AM

Peter, I doubt Tony Ryan's response can be answered, but not primarily because yours is no discussion forum. What's really so wrong with Chinamen drowning black kids in buckets of raw sewerage, or whatever it is they do?

Twenty years ago, I watched the media frenzy over Tianan-men for TWO FULL WEEKS. I watched with mounting wonder because nothing reportable was happening. What on earth was the vile media up to? I knew that "students" do not murder and mutilate unarmed PLA soldiers or torch Shanghai trains as reported with visuals. Organised crims do this.Then that horrid Deng regime - of "geriatric genocides" - cleared the square and the World Hate media's "massacre" entered history. About two weeks thereafter, in the then new Trotskyist magazine "Independent Monthly," a Chinese language classs mate of mine from the early seventies, Ann McLaren, published a piece detailing a far more credible version. It was a failed coup and there was no massacre, tho the leaders did get shot, just like Falun gong secret society crims. A decade later I realised the coup was for the globalist purposes of the Wold Hate Establishment, proof being the behaviour of its media. Today they are still telling us that neighbours - Uigurs, Tibetans, Mongols, you name 'em - hate each other, and that globalist false flag terrorism, deployed by the Anglo-American echelon to Balkanise target countries, does not exist. Balkanise China? Fat chance. Tony, go save Darfur, the great globalist game is over. China will be Christian within the decade because her civilisation got smashed, and the Chinese mind does not like that.

(2) US public hawkish on Iran - Pew poll

From: Joseph Lague <josephlague@sunflower.com> Date: 09.10.2009 04:43 AM

> US public skeptical - and hawkish - on Iran
> http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KJ08Ak04.html

I don' believe results of the survey. Wasn't it the Zionists who made the survey?

The dispute in IAEA indicates there are some principled and fair minded persons in the IAEA. We'll see who wins out. There will be a lot of pressure on the truth tellers to lie! The results of the poll just indicate the jewish lobby is just doing an effective job. 2. We have a chicken hearted bunch of senators...but we already knew that.

(3) 56% of American Jews want US to attack Iran - AJC poll

From: Monique Sulter <m.sulter@worldnet.att.net> Date: 09.10.2009 10:32 PM

> Poll: 56% of American Jews think U.S. should strike Iran
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1117995.html

That is only 56% of THEM, not 56% of the American population.
Who cares what they want. They can send themselves to do the job

(4) Israeli media tycoon Haim Saban offers to buy Al-Jazeera from the government of Qatar

From: Willem Wolters <willem.wolters@kpnplanet.nl> Date: 09.10.2009 04:36 AM

http://presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=108169&sectionid=351020202

Israeli's bid to buy Al-Jazeera from Qatar
Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:16:21 GMT

An Israeli media tycoon has offered to buy the pan-Arab Al-Jazeera satellite television network from the government of Qatar.

Haim Saban, has submitted an offer to the Qatari government in a bid to purchase half of the Doha -based Al-Jazeera satellite network.

The Egyptian newspaper al-Mesryoon reported Wednesday that the Israeli billionaire is currently engaged in negotiations with Qatar's emir, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, over the partial purchase of the media outlet. The talks are said to be conducted through an Egyptian mediator.

The account comes amid reports that the largest and most controversial Arab news channel in the Middle East is grappling with a terrible financial crisis at present. Saban had previously made an offer to purchase al-Jazeera in 2004, but it was turned down.

The Israeli-American magnate has supposedly made an offer of $5 billion for the popular Arabic-language news channel, in an attempt to get a hold of it and to broadcast a pro-Israeli message so as to influence the Arab opinion in favor of Tel Aviv's hawkish regime.

Al-Jazeera spawned a media revolution in the Arab world after it was founded in 1996. The network is reliant on state financial largesse, estimated at over $70 million a year, but does not broadcast shows critical of the Qatari government. Al-Jazeera, however, does air programs leveling criticism at all other Arab governments.

Seban made his fortune by buying the rights to market the Japanese kids show, “The Power Rangers,” in America. He is a prominent supporter of Israel and the right-wing Netanyahu government. In addition, the Egyptian-born Jewish businessman is well known for his under-the-table dealings.

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(5) Haim Saban negotiating purchase of 50% of al-Jazeera

Report: Saban wants to buy al-Jazeera

Egyptian newspaper al-Mesryoon says former Israeli media tycoon has submitted another offer to purchase television network from Qatari emir through Egyptian mediator

Published: 10.08.09, 08:18 / Israel Business

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3787007,00.html

Former Israeli billionaire Haim Saban is holding negotiations for the purchase of 50% of the al-Jazeera television network from the Qatari government, Egyptian newspaper al-Mesryoon reported Wednesday. The negotiations are said to be conducted through an Egyptian mediator.

According to the report, the television network is experiencing financial trouble despite its immense popularity. This is the second time Saban is negotiating with the Qatari emir.

The media tycoon visited Qatar in 2003 together with former US President Bill Clinton, as part of a conference aimed at promoting peace in the Middle East.

Saban backed out of the same negotiations in the past without offering any explanation. His new offer was submitted recently through an Egyptian businessman.

In addition to the Saban Group's media activity, and its stakes in Israeli communications company Bezeq, Saban used to be a musician and has a dual Istraeli-American citizenship. He was born in Alexandria, Egypt in 1944, and immigrated to Israel in 1956.

(6) Israel not after real peace, but only to allay Western criticism & Palestinian uprising

From: Dr. Gunther Kümel <sapere--aude@web.de> Date: 09.10.2009 02:31 AM

'Israel not after real peace with Palestine'

Thu, 08 Oct 2009

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=108131&sectionid=351020202

The Israeli Foreign Ministry's documents suggest Tel Aviv is not after a real peace deal but rather a shelter from international frustration and Palestinian armed response.

An unapproved document outlining Israel's future foreign policy states that the government should not attempt to reach a permanent settlement with the Palestinians but should focus instead on a temporary accord to prevent US and European frustration.

The draft, handed to Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Wednesday, was composed by Naor Gilon, Lieberman's former counselor for political affairs, and is scheduled to be presented before the ministry's directorate within the coming days in order to be approved as Israel's official foreign policy.

Gilon argues that 'the attempt at imposing a settlement with the Palestinians has failed in the past', warning that future attempts would lead to more disappointment on the part of Israel's Western allies and a harsh Palestinian response. ... ==

Future foreign policy may forgo permanent peace deal

Unapproved Foreign Ministry document says temporary accord leaving out core issues should be reached in order to prevent international frustration, violent Palestinian response

Published: 10.07.09, 23:54 / Israel News

Roni Sofer

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3787014,00.html

The Foreign Ministry's political staff has composed a document outlining Israel's future foreign policy, which states that the government should not attempt to reach a permanent settlement with the Palestinians but rather focus on a temporary accord that would prevent US and European frustration.

The document, handed to Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman on Wednesday, was drafted by Naor Gilon, Lieberman's former counselor for political affairs.

Gilon claims that "the attempt at imposing a settlement with the Palestinians has failed in the past", and that future attempts would lead to more disappointment and frustration on the part of the US and Europe as well as a violent Palestinian response.

"We need a realistic attitude – the arrival at a temporary accord without dealing with the core issues. This is the maximum that can be achieved, if we want to be realistic," the document states.

It also urges Lieberman to reestablish ties with countries Israel has abandoned for many years, among these African, Latin American, Balkan, Asian, and moderate Arab nations.

Lieberman is also advised to employ a zero tolerance policy for instances of anti-Semitism and international isolation. The document suggests that Israel focus on environmental and economic issues in order to bolster its image worldwide.

"The age in which Israel could allow itself to be isolated is over," says the document, which is scheduled to be brought before the ministry's directorate in order to be approved as Israel's official foreign policy within the coming days.

(7) Israeli police on alert as Palestinians call strike in defence of Al-Aqsa mosque

Israeli police on alert as Palestinians call strike

By Marius Schattner (AFP) – 1 hour ago

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i5sTViu91MWe4O38A7V4wQUGj5Mw

JERUSALEM — Israeli police were on high alert on Friday as Palestinians called a strike in defence of the Al-Aqsa mosque compound following clashes at the flashpoint site sacred to Muslims and Jews.

"We have deployed thousands of people in Jerusalem and in the north of Israel following incitation by extremists," a senior police official told public radio.

Officials were particularly concerned about the situation in predominantly Arab east Jerusalem and Arab-Israeli cities.

Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas's secular Fatah party on Thursday called for demonstrations and a strike in Palestinian territories, including annexed east Jerusalem, "to peacefully protest and to proclaim the attachment of the Palestinian people to their holy places and to Jerusalem as the eternal capital of the independent Palestinian state."

The party also condemned what it called "the complicity of Israeli forces with Jewish rightwing extremists" and accused them of "allowing (extremists) access to the mosque compound.... while denying it to the (Muslim) faithful."

Israeli police have meanwhile accused the Islamic Movement of inciting tension and this week briefly detained its leader, Sheikh Raed Salah, whom they said had made "inflammatory statements."

Salah, who has been arrested several times and spent two years in Israeli prison, has repeatedly called in recent days for Muslims in Israel and the Palestinian territories to "defend" the Al-Aqsa mosque against Israel.

Israel has decided to maintain restrictions on access to the mosque compound adopted on Sunday following a series of clashes. Only Muslim residents of east Jerusalem or Israel over the age of 50, with no restrictions for the women, are being allowed to attend Friday prayers.

The measure was adopted in a bid to avert further clashes but has also angered Muslims.

Palestinian foreign minister Riyad al-Malki called on UN chief Ban Ki-moon Thursday to intervene to prevent Israel from further ratcheting up the tension in Jerusalem.

Malki said he briefed Ban on "Israeli escalation measures against the Palestinians in Jerusalem and the actions the Israelis have been taking in recent days against Al-Aqsa mosque."

The clashes broke out in late September as Palestinians hurled stones at a group of visitors to the mosque compound they thought were rightwing Jews.

Police said the visitors were in fact French tourists, and responded by firing stun grenades.

The Al-Aqsa compound, known to Muslims as Al-Haram Al-Sharif (the Noble Sanctuary) and to Jews as the Temple Mount, has often been the flashpoint of Israeli-Palestinian violence.

The second Palestinian uprising, or intifada, erupted there in September 2000 after a visit by Ariel Sharon, a rightwing politician who went on to become Israeli prime minister the following year.

Analysts say tension is nowhere near what it was in 2000, but point out it could easily escalate.

"Perhaps Israel's assumption that the Palestinians are not interested in setting the West Bank on fire is accurate, but one soldier firing at stone-throwers, one demonstrator shooting at Israeli soldiers could turn the picture upside down," the Haaretz newspaper said in an editorial.

Copyright © 2009 AFP.

(8) Orthodox Haredi taking over Zionism in Israel

{As per the Protocols of Zionism: after periods of Greed and Totalitarian dictatorship (political extremes of Right and Left), it ends up with social harmony and a King-Messiah. This is also in accord with the book The Messiah's Donkey, which says that Communist (Trotskyist) Jews were used to help establish Israel. I am not thereby asserting that the whole thing was planned that way, but merely pointing out the consistiencies. One interesting question is whether Diaspora Jews will become dissaffected with Israel as the Haredi take over}

http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/failed_messiahcom/2009/10/a-hostile-takeover-of-zionism-226.html

October 01, 2009

Once confined primarily to a few neighborhoods in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, today haredim have spread across the country in large numbers, and 1/3 of all West Bank settlers are now haredi.

A hostile takeover of Zionism

 Patrick Martin • Globe and Mail

September 30, 2009

{visit the link to see the photos}

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/a-hostile-takeover-of-zionism/article1302318/

Jerusalem — Israel's ultra-Orthodox Jewish community has come a long way.

No longer are they the inward-looking anti-Zionists who only cared that the government provide them with money for their separate schools, welfare and exemptions from military service. These days, many of the Haredim – the word means "those who tremble" in awe of God" – have joined with right-wing religious Zionists to become a powerful political force.

They now are equipped to redefine the country's politics and to set a new agenda.

Two decades ago, they were confined mostly to a few neighbourhoods in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. Today, they have spread throughout the country, in substantial numbers in several major communities, as well as building completely new towns only for their followers.

One Haredi leader who almost won Jerusalem's mayoralty race last fall, boasts that, within 20 years, the ultra-Orthodox will control the municipal government of every city in the country. And why not? Of the Jewish Israeli children entering primary school for the first time this month, more than 25 per cent are Haredi, and that proportion will keep growing. There are between 600,000 and 700,000 Haredim in Israel, and they average 8.8 children a family.

A decade ago, there were almost no Haredim in the West Bank settlements. Today, the two largest settlements are entirely ultra-Orthodox, and the Haredim are about a third of the almost 300,000 settlers.

Now that they have tightened the rules on who can be a Jew and have forced the public bus company to provide gender-segregated buses in many communities, a discouraged secular community is starting to emigrate.

Nehemia Shtrasler, a business and political columnist for the Haaretz newspaper, wrote this summer that the country is risking destruction. "We will survive the conflict with the Palestinians and even the nuclear threats from Iran," he wrote. "But the increasing rupture between the secular and ultra-Orthodox communities in Israel will be the end of us." Mr. Shtrasler said: "It's a struggle between two contradictory worldviews that cannot exist side by side.

Will Israel adhere to its founding secular values or will it become a theocratic Jewish state?

Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu has been toiling for decades to make Israel a Halachic state (one that adheres to Jewish religious law). The former chief Sephardi rabbi (from 1983 to 1993) was one of five men who founded the Brit Hakanaim – the Covenant of Zealots – an underground organization of the early 1950s that attacked non-kosher butcher shops and torched cars that were driven on the Sabbath.

Rabbi Eliyahu was imprisoned for 10 months after an apparent plot to attack the Knesset was uncovered. He said at his trial that Israel was turning against God's will when it proposed a law to draft women into the military. Their place is in the home, he insisted, and still insists.

He was the spiritual adviser to Meir Kahane, founder of the racist Kach Party that was banned from the Knesset, and later outlawed completely when one of its members murdered 29 Muslims at prayer in Hebron in 1994. He has long urged the release from prison of Yigal Amir, who assassinated Yitzhak Rabin in 1995.

Rabbi Eliyahu had his greatest impact as spiritual leader of Israel's National Religious Party. He believed that the line separating the Orthodox from the Haredim was artificial and that many Haredim could be brought into the nationalist camp.

The rabbi has an exclusive view of who really is a Jew, having denounced Reform and Conservative synagogues as "reeking of hell." And he has often said that democracy has no place in Judaism.

SURPRISING MERGER

Rabbi Eliyahu and his followers have succeeded in tying the knot between Haredim and religious nationalists. There is even a new name for the new group, the Hardal, derived from Haredim and Mafdal (the acronym for the National Religious Party).

While the NRP has disappeared, the ideas and the name have grown. The powerful Shas Party, of Sephardi and Haredi disciples, is the best example.

Together, the Hardal are 20 per cent of the Jewish population, says Nachman Ben Yehuda, a sociologist at Hebrew University whose book on the Haredim, Theocratic Democracy , is to be published next year.

Such a merger is quite a feat, considering the anti-Zionist origins of the Haredim.

During the age of enlightenment in the 18th century, the first Haredi communities took shape, as an attempt to maintain distinctive Jewish communities when many Jews were being lured into liberal European culture. Haredi rabbis targeted, first, the Reform Jewish movement and, later, the Zionist movement, as abominations counter to God's will.

They opposed the creation of Israel, arguing that using the holy Hebrew language for daily discourse and having "unbelievers" proclaim a "Jewish state" were sacrilegious. Some insisted that the Zionist project brought down the wrath of God in the form of the Holocaust.

For Israel's first four decades, Haredi leaders continued to oppose it, even as many gravitated to the state.

"There still is a strong anti-Zionist aspect," said Prof. Ben Yehuda, "but most Haredi leaders have been persuaded that if there must be a Jewish state, then it should be run properly, as a theocracy."

In the Haredim, the religious Zionists have acquired potent allies. Their followers obey orders without question. "They fear excommunication," explained Prof. Ben Yehuda. "They are largely unprepared for surviving outside their tight-knit communities."

The two groups are united in wanting greater religiosity in Israel.

They seek strict adherence to Biblical rules governing the Sabbath, to Halachic rules concerning food, to age-old traditions of separating men from women, and to the strict observance of Orthodoxy in all aspects of people's lives, from birth, through education, marriage and death to burial.

They also want their rules to be followed in deciding just who is a Jew and who therefore can enjoy the privileges of a Jewish state.

To obtain these goals they have influenced the platforms and growth of political parties, appointments to the rabbinical courts and government policy.

As a result, religious schools get a disproportionate share of the education budget, El Al planes don't fly on the Sabbath and publicly run buses are segregated on a growing number of runs.

DEMOCRACY IN QUESTION

Ironically, considering these religious leaders have made such use of the democratic process, they continue to say democracy is not consistent with Halacha.

"In many ways these guys are closer to Islamic fundamentalists than to anything else," Prof. Ben Yehuda said.

They also do not shrink from violence.

Prof. Ben Yehuda's research found that violence is the number-one criminal infraction among Haredim. He also found that most of that violence is for political purposes.

This past summer witnessed many vivid examples. Thousands of Haredim rioted on several successive Saturdays to protest the opening on the Sabbath of a privately owned parking garage near the Old City of Jerusalem; thousands more rioted when social-services personnel arrested a Haredi woman in Jerusalem who was starving her child.

This week, a young woman was beaten for not being dressed modestly enough in the central Israeli town of Beit Shemish. The town, where many Sephardi refugees settled in the 1950s, recently has had an influx of Haredim. Earlier this month, a man and woman were beaten by Haredi youth when the two sat next to each other on a bus bound for the town.

Violence has become so widespread that there are Haredi communities where the police won't go. This summer, a police car was torched and several officers injured when attacked by a rock-throwing mob, when the police responded to a call for help.

It's upsetting to many Israelis, such as the columnist Nehemia Shtrasler, but when Haredi neighbourhoods become no-go zones for authorities, and when people must think twice before opening a private business on the Sabbath, the violence is having its desired effect.

And, as the Haredi community expands and finds government funding harder to come by, growing numbers of Haredi women and men will be compelled to enter the work force. The impact of that, says Prof. Ben Yehuda, is that businesses and workplaces will be forced to comply with the religious demands of their new workers.

Already, he said, in high-tech workplaces, where many Haredim work, the offices are segregated and cafeteria food is kosher.

Even in the Israel Defence Forces, the Haredim are having an effect. An exclusive Haredi battalion has been created, to accommodate a growing number of ultra-Orthodox who want to serve.

In other battalions, religious Zionists have refused to ride in military vehicles driven by women. Their demands have reportedly been met.

With the demographic shift in favour of the Haredim only going up, those in the private sector, government and the military who decline to accommodate Haredi demands will become fewer and fewer.

And with growing numbers of Haredim in West Bank settlements, Israel's conflict with the Palestinians takes on an increasingly religious fervour.

Prof. Ben Yehuda has no doubt that many of the country's emigrants are leaving, in part, because of the rise of the Hardal. But it's not the major reason, he says.

"However, as this place becomes more and more like Iran, the secular community will leave in droves."

So, is Israel to be a Jewish state, or a state of the Jews?

"Jews come in many forms," notes Prof. Ben Yehuda: "Reform, Conservative, traditional, secular, as well as Orthodox."

Should one group get to determine what rules the country will follow?

(9) Secular Jews as The Messiah's Donkey

The Messiah's Donkey

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Messiah%27s_Donkey

In Jewish tradition, The Messiah's Donky (Hebrew: ????? ?? ????) refers to the donkey (a multicolored donkey, according to Jewish tradition[1]) upon which the Messiah will arrive to redeem the world at the end of days. In Modern Hebrew the phrase "the Messiah's donkey" is used to refer to someone who does the 'dirty work' on behalf of someone else.

The origin of the belief can be found in Zechariah 9:9: "... your king is coming to you; righteous and having salvation is he, humble and mounted on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey."[2] The 'king' referred to in this verse is interpreted by Chazal as referring to the Messiah.

In the discussion regarding this verse in the Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 98a) a story is told of the Persian king Shevor, who asks: Why doesn't your Messiah come riding on a horse? If he lacks one, I'll be glad to provide him with one of my best!

In the New Testament (Mark 11:1-11) it is told that as Jesus approached the Mount of Olives, he sent two of his disciples to a nearby village to fetch him a donkey. Upon their return, Jesus then rode the donkey into Jerusalem where he was met by cheering crowds. According to the Christian religious tradition, this was the fulfillment of the prophecy of Zechariah 9:9.

A similar story can also be found in the Islamic religious tradition: it is written that before the arrival of the Mahdi, the Dajjal will appear riding a white donkey.

[edit] Modern References

In Israel, the phrase "the Messia's Donkey" can also refer to the controversial political-religious doctrine ascribed to the teachings of Rabbi Avraham Yitzhak Kook which claims that secular Jews, which represent the material world, are an instrument in the hands of God whose purpose it was to establish the State of Israel and begin the process of redemption, but upon its establishment they would be required to step aside and allow the Religious-Haredi public to govern the state. According to this analogy, the secular Jewish public are the "donkey", while the Religious-Haredi public who would take their place represent a collective quasi-Messianic body. A book called 'The Messiah's Donkey', which focuses on this issue, was published in 1998 by Seffi Rachlevsky and caused widespread controversy among the Jewish-Israeli public; according to Hassidic teaching the donkey is a symbol of the fact that the Messiah and Messianic age will not oppose the material world, but rather harness it for sacred purposes. Thus, the act of riding upon the donkey is a symbol of the sovereignty of the Messiah over the material world (represented by the donkey).[3]

[edit] References

1.^ Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 98a
2.^ BibleGateway.com - Passage Lookup: Zachariah 9:9
3.^ ???? ???? - ???????? ?? ??? ??? : "????? ?? ????"

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