Monday, March 12, 2012

394 Lasha + Monroe + Helen of Troy + Spartan women

Lasha + Monroe + Helen of Troy + Spartan women

(1) & (2) Alleged communist ties of Marilyn Monroe's psychoanalyst, Ralph Greenson
(3) Einstein's apotheosis
(4) Lasha's claim that Jews invented pornography in America is preposterous
(5) Bettany Hughes talks about her visit to Arkhaim (an Aryan homeland)
(6) Bettany Hughes likens Helen of Troy to Spartan women: Goddess, Princess, Whore
(7) Cyrus Gordon likens Helen's abduction to Sita's in Ramayana AND Sarah in Genesis

(1) Alleged communist ties of Marilyn Monroe's psychoanalyst, Ralph Greenson

From: Framalek <> Date: 12.10.2010 06:18 PM

This allegation comes from Donald Hartwig Wolfe in The last days of Marilyn Monroe, William Morrow and Company, Inc., New York, 1998, p. 384.


(2) Alleged communist ties of Marilyn Monroe's psychoanalyst, Ralph Greenson
From: Eric Walberg <> Date: 12.10.2010 05:35 AM Subject: Re: Marilyn Monroe

even if someone was once a party member, that's no reason to call him a kgb agent/ spy. i have no access to the wolf bio, but i doubt the author had access to russian archives on spies. the extensive (harvard or yale) publications on US spies in the 1930s over the past 20 yrs based on post-1990 access to soviet archives makes no mention of monroe's psychoanalyst or indeed any psychoanalyst as far as i remember.

i'm pretty sure this is still the same old mccarthyism that is ingrained in most yanks.

(3) Einstein's apotheosis

From: Jan <> Date: 12.10.2010 08:36 AM

Aren't we forgetting that the reason for the support of all things Einstein is that Einstein was a Jew? And that ALL scientists only learn what the Jewish controlled education system provides and that 'dissidents' have engaged their own 'freewill' and strayed from their indoctrination to explore outside the provided parameters?

(4) Lasha's claim that Jews invented pornography in America is preposterous
From: Ken Freeland <> Date: 13.10.2010 02:08 PM
Subject: [shamireaders] omnibus of latest responses

The following are recent responses to posts on Shamireaders:

Mitch Medina (my real name) ... on “Lasha responses:”

I'm behind on Shamireaders anyway, and certainly don't have the time to read anything by "Lasha Darkmoon". But the responses caught my eye.

1) The charge that Jews invented pornography in America is preposterous. Hugh Hefner (whose "Playboy Philosophy" conquered all traditional values) is a WASP.

The late Linda Lovelace (actually Boreman) was a lapsed Catholic, beaten into "Deep Throat" by her non-Jewish pimp Chuck Traynor. The film was directed by the similarly lapsed Catholic Gerard Damiano. Every Jewish kid in America knew when I was growing up that if you wanted to get laid easily, you were supposed to look for a rebel from parochial school.

Traynor then took over the "career" of the late Marilyn Chambers, whose gorgeous Aryan-looking face was once on the Ivory Soap box. She came from a middle-class New England family -- some kind of Protestant. She actually wanted to be an actress. The Jewish Ron Jeremy (Hyatt), the world record-holder for porn "scenes", actually had the same ambition. He is now semi-retired.

Louise Madonna Ciccone, another lapsed Catholic, lived in real life and created the show business role of the Whore of Babylon. Britney Spears, another WASP, then played it as a teenager until she grew up into a totally screwed-up and alcoholic young woman.

Hope Destiny Cyrus, also Gentile, Disney's corporate attempt to re-do the Spears story as the character "Hannah Montana", and get it right this time, appears to be headed in the same direction as Britney.

If there had never been any such persons as Madonna and Britney, and MTV (admittedly full of Jewish producers) to promote them, the late(?) Osama bin Laden would still be in obscurity somewhere, writing Muslim theological tracts on the restoration of the Caliphate. Sadly, the MTV building near Times Square is too low to take out with a jetliner. Not that it would do any good, anyway -- they'd just stay on the air from another location.

2) Whoever said that incest was now practical because of birth control is out of his mind. Incest "survivors" are W-A-A-A-Y over-represented in the population of schizophrenics. If you don't want to be Freudian, say instead "really crazy people". It is entirely possible that Adolf Hitler belongs in this group -- though it is impossible to prove historically what Alois Matzelberger Schicklgruber did or did not do to him.

3) God is not mentioned in the Book of Esther, either. I am fond of using this fact in Christian circles as proof that the argument from silence is a logical fallacy.

Theologically, the Song of Songs has long been read as an allegory of God's love for his people, both in Judaism and Christianity. To dismiss it as an erotic poem is way off the mark. In the practical realm, if read carefully, it puts the Divine seal of approval on inter-racial marriage and oral sex. I will leave it to others explain why sodomy proper, whether homo- or heterosexual, is not an awful and unnatural practice. Nobody likes receiving it, although after long practice, it is possible to train the end of the digestive tract not to be bothered by it all that much. For myself, I will be content to say this: You want to put your what where? Didn't your mother teach you to wash your hands?

Needless to say, it cannot be found in the Song of Solomon.

Comment (Peter M.):

The Jewish media seem to have promoted those non-Jewish rebels.

As for the Song of Solomon, but for the allegorical interpretation, it would probably have been ejected from some of the Canons. But when it's seen in relation to Sumerian/Babylonian sex-culture, its derivation is obvious.

Some Jewish writers claim that Judaism invented the 7-day week. But Dr David Neiman (a rabbi), in his talks on civilization, says that

"The Jewish Calendar is the Babylonian Calendar, which is the Sumerian Calendar".

He also says that the Western world used to use the Babylonian Calendar (a lunar calendar, with extra months added every few years, to approximate the solar year), but later adopted the Egyptian solar Calendar.

The solar calendar was introduced so that the annual Nile flood could be predicted each year. Early versions had 360 days; this was later adjusted to 365, by adding five extra days.

Neiman says that the Egyptian Calendar was adopted by the Romans, then by the Western world, and finally it took over the whole world.

(5) Bettany Hughes talks about her visit to Arkhaim (an Aryan homeland)

Bettany Hughes Video Journal: Socrates, Sappho, Aryans and more

Submitted by Bettany Hughes on Thu, 08/26/2010 - 10:29

Sappho the Greek poet, Socrates the famous philosopher and the fascinating Aryan Culture which formed the basis of Eastern and Western civilisation have all been occupying my time in recent months but I had the chance to make a Heritage Key Video Journal entry (watch the video now) while I was recording in a London studio for a new BBC Documentary about the Aryan culture.

Going out to Siberia, at the Russian-Kazakhstan border (click to open map), to see the homeland of the Aryans was very, very stimulating and intellectually very exciting, but particularly fascinating were that many of the artefacts are covered with Swastika imagery as I explain in my Video Journal (watch it here).

I've just completed the manuscript for my upcoming book ("The Hemlock Cup: Scorates, Athens and the Search for the Good Life") about the Greek philosopher Socrates, though if you can't wait for that, you can check out my other publications such as "Helen of Troy: Goddess, Princess, Whore" (buy the book) and "The Seven Ages of Britain" (buy the book). You can also listen to the BBC Radio 4 Great Lives episode about Sappho over on BBC iPlayer.

(6) Bettany Hughes likens Helen of Troy to Spartan women: Goddess, Princess, Whore

HELEN OF TROY: Goddess, Princess, Whore

Bettany Hughes

(Jonathan Cape 2005)

Reviewed by: Marion Arnott

This is a lavish book, lavishly illustrated, lavishly written, and lavishly enthusiastic about its eternally fascinating subject, Helen of Troy. Hughes herself explains that it is not possible to ‘reveal’ the historical Helen (if she ever existed), but with the application of her considerable scholarship, she has succeeded in writing an absorbing history of Helen’s history – that is, a survey of the society she lived in, and later, of her ever changing reputation and representation. Like Joan of Arc, she seems destined to be the focus of every age’s preoccupation with what it means to be a woman (as defined by men).

In her own era, and for centuries after, there were Helenic cults and Helenic shrines in Sparta and all over the Mediterranean. Hughes delves into the past to show something of the Spartan way of life as lived by women then. Bold eyed and beautiful, athletic and free, Spartan women were unashamed of their bodies or their sexuality. They seem also to have been important members of their community to judge by the number of statues and paintings showing them in charge of priestly rites and perhaps of the storing and distribution of crops, an important responsibility in an agricultural society. These functions can be traced back to 25,000 years BC: women were a life force, associated with sex and fecundity, with giving life and taking it, responsible for keeping the Earth and the land fecund and productive. Helen herself is often represented holding a pomegranate and a wheat ear, symbolic of the sacred feminine.

In Homer, Helen is the most beautiful woman in the world, the world’s desire. As a child, she was abducted by Theseus and raped, then freed by her brothers. Later she married the Mycenean Menelaus. Later still she went to Troy with Paris. Paris dead, she took up with one of his brothers. But no matter how colourful her life had been, she was always desired because after everything, Menelaus took her back.

It is unclear whether she was abducted by Paris, or whether she went willingly – it all depends on who is telling the story, for there are many accounts of the events at Troy. What varies down through the ages is the amount of blame to be apportioned Helen. In Sparta, she is the epitome of womanhood – no Spartan bride married without an offering to divinely erotic Helen. Egyptian writings portray her as the placid perfect wife (some sources even claim she never went to Troy but settled in Egypt). Classical Athenians condemn her as the worst kind of woman and the cause of the deaths of all the heroes, a judgement hardly to be wondered at in that misogynistic society where women were to be chaste, modest, and above all unseen and not heard.

The harshest condemnations come form the Christian era. That fiercely misogynistic culture which blamed Eve for all the troubles of the world was hardly likely to spare pagan Helen. Helen’s sexuality was troubling for a culture which provided the Virgin Mary as a template for women. It was Helen’s lusts which spawned the Trojan war and the destruction of men (not Paris’s or Menelaus’s), just as it was Eve’s disobedience and not Adam’s which brought about the expulsion from Eden. And yet they cannot leave Helen alone. Hughes points out that in their condemnations of Helen, an underlying yearning can be traced in their lingering descriptions of her appearance and their harping on about her lusts. She’s not called the world’s desire for nothing.

One of the most enjoyable features of this book is the juxtaposition of all these judgements and opinions with historical fact. A brief foray into the writings of the Hittite empire (of which Troy was a client city) show an edgy international situation between power hungry Mycenaeans and Hittites holding on to what they had, a scenario not unfamiliar today. Perhaps Helen was a necessary excuse, a Bronze age Weapon of Mass Destruction. Hughes recalls meeting a New York taxi driver who found a woman to blame for Iraq. His contemporary Helen is Ms Lewinski, whose fault it is that Clinton fell and allowed Bush into power. QED. It’s a funny anecdote, and not a million miles away from judgements of Helen, the Spartan Queen.

Also enjoyable is the assembling of art and statuary and literature from many eras and cultures, showing the changing face of Helen of Troy. From the bold eyed girls of Sparta and Minoan culture, to the fiendish Athenian theatrical face mask, to Helen condemned to burn in hell, to the milkwater Victorian Helen peering vainly into a mirror, Helen always reflects male judgements and fantasies. Hughes sees her faceless in the semi dark of her palace, moving silently, glistening with olive oil scented with roses, her earrings jangling, unknown and unknowable, but endlessly fascinating. I like that version too.

(7) Cyrus Gordon likens Helen's abduction to Sita's in Ramayana AND Sarah in Genesis

 Cyrus H. Gordon, Before the Bible: the Common Background of Greek and Hebrew Civilisations, Collins, London 1962.

{p. 23} Sumerian civilisation got started in Sumer or elsewhere. It is incredible that in a land devoid of stone or metal, the Sumerians could have risen from barbarism to a remarkably developed culture excelling in the arts of the lapidary and smith. There is every reason to believe that the Sumerians came to "Sumer" with a considerable degree of civilisation, and with connections already established in areas producing the needed raw materials. Some of the mines may have actually been worked by Sumerians; but in any case Sumerians must have been stationed there in administrative capacity. In late Sumerian times, as we shall note, Ur of Sumer had trading colonies far to the north.

Pottery found at early Greek sites such as Lerna, Dimini and Sesklo often has unmistakable affinities with Mesopotamian pottery from as far back as the Tell Halaf Period, around 3500 B.C. We shall presently explain the character of the human agents that account for the transmission of ceramic production, but meanwhile we may observe that ceramic affinities between Mesopotamia and the Aegean are proof of contact between the two areas long before the dawn of writing; over two thousand years before the Amarna synthesis out of which the early Greek and Hebrew traditions sprang. At no historic time were the Near East and the Aegean out of touch with each other, though in some periods, such as the Amarna and Hellenistic Ages, the contacts were especially strong. Classical scholars know about the orientalising periods in Greek art; and Near Eastern specialists are familiar with Minoan, Mycenaean, Hellenistic and still later Greek influence in Western Asia and Egypt. The interconnections antedate not only the earliest Hebrew and Greek writings, but also the earliest texts of Sumer and Egypt.

The most familiar and swiftest form of ethnic impact is military invasion and conquest. The first Semitic empire,

{p. 24} namely the Akkad Dynasty in Mesopotamia (ca. 235O-2150 B.C.), could boast of conquests up to, and even beyond, the shores of the Mediterranean. Seal cylinders of the Akkad Dynasty have been found on the island of Cyprus, making it quite likely that Sargon, who founded the Dynasty, reached Cyprus and brought it under his sway. Other Mesopotamian monarchs whose operations reached the Mediterranean in early times, include Naram-Sin of the Akkad Dynasty, Sargon the First of Assyria, and Naram-Sin of Eshnunna. Quite often, great movements connected with these and other sovereigns are documented all too vaguely; but the testimony of written records and archaeological objects leaves no doubt as to their historicity. Often enough the texts in question are not contemporary with the events. For example, Sargon of Akkad's conquest of Asia Minor has given rise to an epic called "King of Battle". In the Amarna Age, this epic was so popular that it was studied and copied by cuneiform scribes as far off as Egypt. The popularity of this composition in the outposts of Babylonian influence during the Amarna Age may be due to the fact that the scribes, and more especially the Babylonian traders for whom they worked, sometimes needed the protection of the Babylonian king. Accordingly, the tradition that Sargon, in response to the appeal of his merchants in Asia Minor, victoriously reasserted his power there, was long cherished by Mesopotamia's sons, trading far away for their country. ...

{p. 25} The influx of Indo-European immigrants into the Near East during the second millennium B.C. revolutionised the art of war. The newcomers introduced the horse-drawn war-chariot, which gave a swift striking power hitherto unknown in the Near East.

{p. 26} The elite charioteer officers, who bear the Indo-European name of maryannu, soon became a new aristocracy throughout the entire area, including Egypt. With them appears also a new type of royal epic, which we may call the Indo-European War Epic. Embedded in it is a motif that has become commonplace in world literature: the Helen of Troy theme, whereby a hero loses his destined bride and must wage a war to win her back. Greek and Indic epic illustrate this theme {The Indian one is the Ramayana}, and it is from the Iliad that it has become popular in the modern West. However, it is completely absent from the romantic literatures of early Mesopotamia and Egypt, and it appears in the Semitic World only in the wake of the Indo-Europeans with their maryannu aristocracy. The Helen of Troy theme first appears at Ugarit of the Amarna Age, in a community where the Indo-European elements are present, including a firmly entrenched organisation of maryannu. As we shall note later, the theme permeates the early traditions of Israel, particularly the saga of Abraham. ...

{p. 285} Once we recognise the factor of royal epic in Genesis, we see that the Helen-of-Troy motif permeates the Patriarchal Narratives. We do not refer only to the abductions that wrested Sarah and nearly wrested Rebecca from their aristocratic husbands. The abduction and seduction of Dinah is a related theme in the Narratives, involving also a menis of her brothers Simeon and Levi that results in bloody vengeance. Neither Sarah nor Dinah is ever condemned. Like Helen and Hurrai, Sarah and Dinah are heroines according to the standards of royal epic. Like Helen, Sarah is wondrously fiir and ageless. Twenty years after Helen left her husband and child, she still retained the charms of youth. Sarah outdid her; for even after Sarah had passed her ninetieth birthday (Genesis 17: 17), kings could not resist her beauty (Genesis 20: 2 ff.).

{p. 139} The Minoan tradition of city planning did not reckon with city walls. Knossos, Phaistos, Mallia and the other Minoan towns are unwalled. Now it might be argued that islanders relied on the sea for protection, but I think this approach is unrealistic. Crete itself was fragmentised into various political entities that might be mutually hostile in various sectors at various times. Without concerning ourselves with origins, we know that Minoan cities were unwalled. It is human to persist in tradition long after the tradition has become obsolete. For example, Spartan institutions were close to those of Crete, and nowhere is this more striking than in the absence of a wall around Sparta. The Greek mainland consisted of city states hostile to, and often warring with each other. Yet Sparta continued to go on without a wall. Scholars have generally concluded that the absence of walls around the Minoan cities indicates a peaceful way of life. I question this. The Spartans were so warlike that they counted on their men to defend the city; their soldiers were their "wall."

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