Paul Krugman acknowledges existence of Jewish lobby; but Philip Weiss
accuses him of cowardice
(1) Paul Krugman acknowledges existence of
the Jewish lobby: "intense
attack from organized groups"
(2) The Crisis
of Zionism, by Peter Beinart
(3) Philip Weiss accuses Krugman of cowardice
over his limp attack on
the Lobby
(4) Beinart trying to save liberal
Zionism; Jewish "victimhood" cf their
own moral shortcomings
(1) Paul
Krugman acknowledges existence of the Jewish lobby: "intense
attack from
organized groups"
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 04:52:28 +1000
The Crisis
of Zionism
April 24, 2012, 2:54 PM
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/04/24/the-crisis-of-zionism/
Something
I've been meaning to do — and still don't have the time to do
properly — is
say something about Peter Beinart's brave book The Crisis
of
Zionism.
The truth is that like many liberal American Jews — and most
American
Jews are still liberal — I basically avoid thinking about where
Israel
is going. It seems obvious from here that the narrow-minded policies
of
the current government are basically a gradual, long-run form of
national suicide — and that's bad for Jews everywhere, not to mention
the world. But I have other battles to fight, and to say anything to
that effect is to bring yourself under intense attack from organized
groups that try to make any criticism of Israeli policies tantamount to
anti-Semitism.
But it's only right to say something on behalf of
Beinart, who has
predictably run into that buzzsaw. As I said, a brave man,
and he
deserves better.
(2) The Crisis of Zionism, by Peter
Beinart
http://www.amazon.com/Crisis-Zionism-Peter-Beinart/dp/0805094121
The
Crisis of Zionism [Hardcover]
Peter Beinart (Author)
Publication
Date: March 27, 2012 | ISBN-10: 0805094121 | ISBN-13:
978-0805094121 |
Edition: First Edition
Israel's next great crisis may come not with the
Palestinians or Iran
but with young American Jews
A dramatic shift is
taking place in Israel and America. In Israel, the
deepening occupation of
the West Bank is putting Israeli democracy at
risk. In the United States,
the refusal of major Jewish organizations to
defend democracy in the Jewish
state is alienating many young liberal
Jews from Zionism itself. In the next
generation, the liberal Zionist
dream—the dream of a state that safeguards
the Jewish people and
cherishes democratic ideals—may die.
In The
Crisis of Zionism, Peter Beinart lays out in chilling detail the
looming
danger to Israeli democracy and the American Jewish
establishment's refusal
to confront it. And he offers a fascinating,
groundbreaking portrait of the
two leaders at the center of the crisis:
Barack Obama, America's first
"Jewish president," a man steeped in the
liberalism he learned from his many
Jewish friends and mentors in
Chicago; and Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli
prime minister who
considers liberalism the Jewish people's special curse.
These two men
embody fundamentally different visions not just of American
and Israeli
national interests but of the mission of the Jewish people
itself.
Beinart concludes with provocative proposals for how the
relationship
between American Jews and Israel must change, and with an
eloquent and
moving appeal for American Jews to defend the dream of a
democratic
Jewish state before it is too late.
(3) Philip Weiss
accuses Krugman of cowardice over his limp attack on
the Lobby
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/04/krugman-jumps-into-debate-over-beinart-with-both-pinkies.html
Krugman
jumps into debate over Beinart with both pinkies
by Philip Weiss on
April 25, 2012 45
It is a measure of Paul Krugman's influence that
within an hour or so of
his posting a weak defense of Peter Beinart, yet
still a defense, a half
dozen people sent me the link. The guy is huge.
Haaretz did a news story
on the Krugman statement. His column is titled "The
Conscience of a
Liberal." And this is part of what he
says:
{quote}
The truth is that like many liberal American Jews — and
most American
Jews are still liberal — I basically avoid thinking about
where Israel
is going. It seems obvious from here that the narrow-minded
policies of
the current government are basically a gradual, long-run form of
national suicide — and that's bad for Jews everywhere, not to mention
the world. But I have other battles to fight, and to say anything to
that effect is to bring yourself under intense attack from organized
groups that try to make any criticism of Israeli policies tantamount to
anti-Semitism.
{endquote}
I find this stunning. The guy has a
Nobel Prize and a professorship and
a perch at the New York Times, and he is
afraid to go near the issue,
one of the most important issues we face today,
and when he does go near
it he offers platitudes. Is it true that the end of
Israel would be bad
for Jews everywhere? Explain. Is it true that organized
groups
intimidate people on this issue? Elaborate. John Mearsheimer says
that
tenure is wasted on most professors. This seems further proof of his
theory. Krugman obeys the strictures of Jewish community
orthodoxy.
Oh and go to the link but his statement on behalf of Beinart
is the
repetition that he's brave. Krugman obeys the boycott issue entirely.
Here's Haaretz, wowed
{http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/paul-krugman-israeli-government-policies-are-a-form-of-national-suicide-1.426387}:
Krugman's
unusually harsh critique of Prime Minister Benjamin
Netanyahu's government
is sure to elicit howls of protest from Israeli
spokespersons and American
Jewish organizations – more so, perhaps, as
they come on the eve of Israel's
Independence Day. It is also sure to
further inflame the continuously
deteriorating relationship between the
Israeli government and the New York
Times, considered by many to be the
most important newspaper in the
world.
(4) Beinart trying to save liberal Zionism; Jewish "victimhood" cf
their
own moral shortcomings
http://www.haaretz.com/weekend/magazine/is-archliberal-peter-beinart-good-for-the-jews-1.420178
Is
archliberal Peter Beinart good for the Jews?
Peter Beinart is on a
crusade to save the patrimony of liberal Zionism
in Israel and America. In a
wide-ranging interview, the charismatic
author slams the American Jewish
establishment and Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu. He also talks about his
latest book, which is
already provoking controversy.
By Chemi
Shalev
Haaretz, March 22, 2012
NEW YORK CITY – "If Israel does not
survive as a Jewish democratic
state, I want to be able to tell my children
that I did what little I'm
capable of. I'm a writer, so what I can do is to
try to sound an alarm.
I just want to be able to say that to
them."
The man speaking is Peter Beinart, the journalist, essayist and
author
who became American Jewry's most prominent prophet of doom following
the
publication of his 2010 article, "The Failure of the Jewish
Establishment." It is a role that will now be cemented in stone with the
publication of his new book "The Crisis of Zionism," in which he calls
on American Jews "to defend the dream of a democratic Jewish state
before it is too late."
"Part of the problem in the American Jewish
community is that people
worry too much about what their aunt Esther and
what the right-wing guy
who they sit with at shul are going to say, and not
enough about what
their children are going to say," Beinart tells me in an
interview at
his office at the City University of New York Graduate School
of
Journalism. "You can disagree with my analysis, that's fine. But if you
agree with my analysis of the situation, then that is what you worry
about. You worry about how you're going to explain to the next
generation that we squandered this patrimony."
The patrimony that
Beinart is referring to, of course, is that of
liberal Zionism, in both
Israel and America. It is the legacy that
Beinart cited in his controversial
New York Times article this week
which called for a boycott of settlements
and which elicited a firestorm
of condemnation and criticism. Beinart is on
a crusade, if you will, to
save the birthright of liberal American Jews, and
his two main culprits
– the "enemies" with whom he is doing battle – are the
American Jewish
establishment, which blindly follows right-wing Israeli
policies, and
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who orchestrates
them.
As far as Beinart is concerned, it is Netanyahu who is leading the
Jewish people astray by misinterpreting historical precedents and
misapplying them to the present. It is Netanyahu who has converted the
American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbying organization, and
recruited Christian Evangelicals to support his right-wing anti-liberal
agendas. It is Netanyahu, aided and abetted by these very same American
supporters, who has derailed President Barack Obama's Middle East peace
policies, a move that could go down as a "historical tragedy," Beinart
asserts.
"His arrogance and his intellectual insularity remind me of
the worst of
American politics in the Bush era," he says. "This idea that
because
he's done some reading about the 1930s and 1940s, nobody understands
history better than him, is intellectually sophomoric, you know? This
constant putting of everything that Netanyahu encounters into the
Holocaust analogy, first the Palestinians and now Iran, is the worst
form of policymaking. His line that no one knows history beyond what he
had for breakfast is [Dick] Cheney-esque, really. And it drives me up
the wall."
Throughout Beinart's texts, speeches and interviews, it is
clear that
most everything that Netanyahu says or does drives him up the
wall.
Netanyahu is the arch villain, the embodiment of everything that has
gone wrong with the Zionism that Beinart swears allegiance to. One of
the reasons for this fixation, Beinart readily admits, is the fact that
Netanyahu is so "American" – that he plays so skillfully in the American
political arena. That he is for many Democrats, as Beinart says, "the
Republican senator from New York." And it is in this context that
Beinart offers what is, for this writer at least, one of the more
incisive insights of his new book, an eye-opener that, admittedly, may
not be accurate but is nonetheless spectacularly original.
'A nasty
world'
According to Beinart, Netanyahu's mistrust and dislike for Obama
do not
stem from the fact that the president is a Democrat, or a liberal,
and
definitely not because he is black, god forbid, or because his middle
name is Hussein.
No, Netanyahu distrusts Obama because Obama reminds
him of Jews. And not
just any Jews, but leftist Jews – the Jews that
Netanyahu detests, the
kind of Jews that Netanyahu once famously told an
Israeli rabbi "have
forgotten what it is to be Jews."
"What really
struck me when I read his writings and that of his father
Benzion, and then
about the Revisionist tradition, is this belief that
the world is a very
nasty place, and the Jews are in danger because they
don't recognize its
nastiness. Because they've gotten this crazy idea
that they're supposed to
be better than everybody else. And that this is
deep in our history, it's
something that has emerged over hundreds and
hundreds of years in the
Diaspora – and we've got to get rid of it.
We've got to become like
everybody else."
Obama, according to Beinart, is a product of this Jewish
worldview that
Netanyahu rejects. He is a "Jewish president," as Beinart
relates in his
book, heavily influenced by liberal, leftist tikkun olam Jews
– (i.e.,
who believe in repairing the world – ), who "came out of the Civil
Rights Movement and the anti-Vietnam protests" and among whom Obama
lived, worked and thrived as he launched his political career in
Chicago. And Netanyahu, so well versed in the ways of America, knows
full well where Obama is coming from: a quintessentially Jewish place
that "frightens" and "alienates" the Israeli prime minister, Beinart
says. And it is to thwart this Jewish-inspired worldview of Obama's,
especially as it pertains to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, that
Netanyahu has enlisted Jewish America's most powerful agent of
influence, AIPAC.
What's wrong with AIPAC?
"There is nothing
wrong with the people themselves. Most AIPAC people
are not ideological.
They don't see themselves as right wing. They're
mostly moderate Democrats.
They just want to do something for Israel.
They want to feel connected to
Israel. They go to their synagogue
dinner, they go to the Federation dinner,
and they go to the AIPAC
dinner. But I disagree with AIPAC's definition of
what it means to be
pro-Israel. Obviously, they have every right to be
involved and engaged,
and I feel ambivalent – because there's a part of me,
as a Jew, who,
when I look at the AIPAC conference, says: 'Wow, we're good.
Who else
could do this?' I feel the same way when I see the list of Nobel
Prize
winners.
"But the AIPAC conference is a fantasy of power
without responsibility.
The whole AIPAC ethos is about the Jewish experience
of power. You're a
dentist in Cleveland. Your dad was a liquor-store owner
in the Bronx.
Your grandfather was a peddler in Riga. Your uncles and aunts
and
cousins were massacred in the Shoah. Nobody gave a shit about you. You
come to AIPAC, and all the politicians come to tell you how great you
are, and to tell you what you want to hear. For WASPs, it wouldn't be
such a powerful experience. For Jews, especially older Jews, it's a very
powerful experience, especially when you tell people that you're using
this power to save the Jewish people in the way that your parents and
grandparents couldn't in the 1940s.
"But the problem is, it's only a
narrative of power and survival. It's
not a narrative of power and ethical
responsibility. And that's a point
I try to make in the book: What's missing
from the American Jewish
conversation is a recognition that our tradition
has something to teach
us about the responsibility of power and the capacity
to abuse power,
and we don't see that in the Israel debate."
It is
this attempt to eradicate the Jewish imperative for moral
responsibility
which, according to Beinart, is also a major reason for
Netanyahu's appeal
to the Christian Evangelical right and its support
for Israel, which Beinart
describes as "an unmitigated disaster."
"They fit so well with Bibi," he
says, "because Bibi wants a Zionism and
a Judaism that kicks to the side any
notion of the Jews having a special
ethical mission, and that's what the
Christians want as well ... Do you
know why they love Israel? Because they
see themselves in a global
struggle against Islam, and they believe that
what's great about Israel
is that Israel is taking it to the Muslims. Well,
that's not what I love
about Israel."
Rallying cry
Beinart's
rallying cry to fight for the Israel he loves, and his harsh
attack on those
he views as undermining it, were the backdrop to his
groundbreaking May 2010
article in the prestigious New York Review of
Books, which catapulted him
into his current status as the main
ideologue of American Jewish liberals.
The article took the American
Jewish world by storm to a degree that
surprised Beinart himself. It
lambasted the Jewish establishment for driving
away young and liberal
Jews, for failing to stand up for human rights and
democracy in Israel
and in the territories, and for betraying the historical
values of
liberal American Zionism.
"For several decades, the Jewish
establishment has asked American Jews
to check their liberalism at Zionism's
door, and now, to their horror,
they are finding that many young Jews have
checked their Zionism
instead. Morally, American Zionism is in a downward
spiral. If the
leaders of groups like AIPAC and the Conference of Presidents
of Major
American Jewish Organizations do not change course, they will wake
up
one day to find a younger, Orthodox-dominated, Zionist leadership whose
naked hostility to Arabs and Palestinians scares even them, and a mass
of secular American Jews who range from apathetic to appalled. Saving
liberal Zionism in the United States – so that American Jews can help
save liberal Zionism in Israel – is the great American Jewish challenge
of our age."
Beinart's article was well written and well argued, but
what turned it
into such a sensation was its impeccable timing. He
expressed, often
with polemical hammer blows, what many Jews had been
feeling in
mid-2010. His message spread like wildfire in Jewish
intelligentsia,
among people who were increasingly dismayed by the
undeniable
contradiction between Obama's 2008 election and his liberal
agenda,
which they had fervently endorsed, and the values and voices that
were
emanating from Israel in the wake of Netanyahu's 2009 election: Avigdor
Lieberman, settler violence, antidemocratic legislation, insularity
abroad and intolerance at home.
Beinart was tapping into the same
kind of frustration with the status
quo that had led to the establishment of
J Street in 2008. The liberal,
urban, intellectual elites of Jewish America
were looking for a voice,
and in Beinart they had found their would-be
Jeremiah.
Beinart, almost a quintessential Jewish American intellectual,
might not
get very far in the rough-and-tumble atmosphere of political
discourse
in Tel Aviv, but in New York and other urban U.S. Jewish centers,
he
fits the bill perfectly. He is undoubtedly more charismatic in the eyes
of young American Jews than the heads of the organizations that he so
caustically criticizes. At the recent General Assembly of Jewish
Federations in Denver, I witnessed how swarms of young female listeners
lapped up his words – even those who later found it necessary to say
they reject his message completely.
"Beinart is a classic Washington
scholar-journalist-pundit, a Yale and
Oxford graduate who has edited the New
Republic, stamped his wonk pass
at the Council on Foreign Relations and now
hangs out at the New America
Foundation and the City University of New
York." That was how The
Washington Post's Carlos Lozada described him in
2010.
Born in 1971 to immigrant parents from South Africa who made their
home
in the elitist intellectual milieu of Harvard and MIT, Beinart was for
many years described by the adjective "wunderkind." He studied at Yale,
was a Rhodes scholar at Oxford, and at the ripe old age of 28 was
appointed editor of Martin Peretz's influential, soft-at-home,
tough-abroad New Republic. Beinart is the author of two books on
American foreign policy, which received mixed reviews.
Turbo-charged
version
In 2006 he published "The Good Fight: Why Liberals – and Only
Liberals –
Can Win the War on Terror and Make America Great Again," which
focused
on the works of American theologian Reinhold Niebuhr a few years
before
he became a household name due to his influence on the foreign policy
thinking of President Obama.
In 2010, Beinart wrote "The Icarus
Syndrome: A History of American
Hubris," in which he blames American
overconfidence and hubris for a
century of foreign policy mishaps, follies
and tragedies. It is in this
second book that Beinart recants his own
support for the 2003 Iraq war,
leading a reviewer in the Christian Science
Monitor to describe the book
as "a history of Beinart's own
hubris."
Beinart's born-again ardor, his zeal of a convert, is one of the
motivations critics ascribed to his hard-hitting New York Review of
Books article. It is probably just one of a series of broadsides that
Beinart will have to confront with the publication of "The Crisis of
Zionism" by Times Books, the publishing arm of The New York Times. It
is, in many ways, a turbo-charged version of his original article.
It
includes a detailed and utterly unflattering account of the relations
between Netanyahu and Obama over the past three years, as told to
Beinart by sources close to the latter who are clearly no great fans of
the former. It expands and expounds on Beinart's original indictment of
antidemocratic Israeli attitudes toward Palestinians. It laments the
Israeli betrayal of the liberal values that Beinart believes Israel was
founded on and, consequently, its growing distance from American Jews.
It lambasts the perpetuation and fostering of the Jewish sense of
"victimhood" by Netanyahu and others of his ilk, which serves to absolve
Jews of any need to come to terms with their own moral shortcomings. It
is, at once, a condemnation of the Jewish establishment and a call to
arms for liberal Jewry. It is, or may come to be, the "Little Red Book"
of left-leaning American Jewish intellectuals, the "Liberal Manifesto"
of sophisticated Jews who insist on clinging to their old-style Zionism,
even if it no longer exists.
The book is, I tell Beinart, like a
compendium of all the leftist
opinion articles that have been written and
that will be written on
these subjects for years to come. His critics will
say that the work is
more indicative of Beinart's own clueless liberalism
than it is of
misguided Israeli policies – a shining example of how leftists
have lost
their way. His facts and statistics are not borne out by the
research
and the polls, they will claim. He doesn't live in Israel, of
course,
doesn't send his children to the army and shouldn't be criticizing
Israel in the first place. He is arming Israel's worst enemies with some
of their best lines. And sometimes it seems that he just doesn't get it:
"Beinart ignores what Israel has gone through over the last decade and
thereby misreads what Israelis are thinking today" – as ADL chairman Abe
Foxman said.
Indeed, for an Israeli reader, even one who is
sympathetic to Beinart,
there are some glaring gaps in his book, made all
the more striking by
the fact that these were widely pointed out to him in
many reviews and
critiques of his 2010 article.
It often seems like
you just don't feel the pain, that you don't grasp
the impact of the trauma
of the suicide bombings and the second intifada
on the Israeli psyche and
public opinion.
"I'm sorry. If that doesn't come through, then it's a
failure of the
book. I didn't live it, but I totally understand it. This
randomness of
the violence, the sense that the whole of Israel was a
battlefield. If
you say that this pushed Israeli politics significantly to
the right, I
think that's incontestably right. But people go from that
descriptive
reality to a normative claim: that therefore, the interpretation
of the
second intifada, that became dominant on the Israeli right and among
most American Jews, is correct.
"9/11 had an incredibly traumatic
impact on Americans. Nobody can
understand American foreign policy in the
ensuing years without
understanding the trauma. But that doesn't mean it
justifies the way
that American leaders, and to some degree even American
public opinion,
responded to 9/11. It may be more understandable,
emotionally, but it
doesn't mean it was wise."
But it also seems you
don't give enough weight to Iran. And the Arab
Spring. And to a whole host
of similar events.
"That may be true, but I don't think any of these
events are good
reasons to create a one-state solution in the West Bank. The
point I'm
trying to get at is that these things become manipulated by people
who
have no interest in the creation of something along the lines of the
Clinton parameters. And it seems to me that we can't play that game
forever. Because then you get what you most fear, which is from the
river to the sea, you know? And when I listen to American Jewish leaders
or, frankly, when I listen to Netanyahu, I don't feel a kind of
recognition that this is not some distant potential, that there could be
a triggering mechanism, a Palestinian intifada of some sort, which
washes away the Palestinian Authority. And we could be there, a week
from Tuesday. Sometimes I think we're like in the old Road Runner
cartoon where he goes off the cliff but [doesn't fall because] he hasn't
looked down, you know?"
Nonetheless, you seem to pay lip service to
the effects of the violence
and to the rejectionism of the Palestinians and
of Hamas and of Iran.
You go through the motions on what is, after all, 99
percent of the
story as far as the Israeli public is concerned. Often it
seems that for
you, Israel is at fault for everything.
"No, I don't
think that's fair. In my own narrative of what I think
happened through the
Oslo Process and going through the second intifada,
you will find again and
again references to Palestinian culpability. I
made a point of describing
the grisly details of the Itamar massacre,
precisely because I wanted to put
on paper what the Palestinian
terrorists did. But people are used to hearing
a narrative in which
there's never much recognition of the fact that there
is culpability on
both sides. I genuinely believe there is very serious
culpability on
both sides for the failure of Oslo, for what happened at Camp
David and
for what happened in the Gaza disengagement."
You sound
very disappointed with Obama. You thought he would carry
through with his
peace agenda, but then he capitulated.
"I was disappointed at the way he
handled the settlements fight, and
then I was probably even more
disappointed at his reaction in the wake
of his '67 lines-plus-swaps speech.
And now I'm disappointed that he
acts as if the settlements issue basically
doesn't exist and that he is
willing to essentially live within a purely
Iran framework, which is
what Bibi wanted from the very beginning. I'm
disappointed in Obama, but
I'm more disappointed in us, because you can't
expect Obama to care more
about the survival of Israel as a Jewish
democratic state than we
American Jews do. We American Jews played a huge
role in making the
political price for Obama doing what he believed in too
high. So he
said, 'Do you expect me to lay down in front of the train
tracks, when
you are determined to go on a path that could destroy Israel as
a Jewish
democratic state?'"
Fundamental problem
Maybe you
have misplaced expectations. This is what American Jews are.
"I think
there are many American Jews –I don't know if it's most – who
have responded
to what they saw during the first intifada, the Lebanon
war and, in even
larger numbers, since the Netanyahu/Lieberman
government emerged. And what
they see is a government that's not
genuinely committed to a two-state
solution, and is pursuing an agenda
that undermines liberal democracy at
home. I think American Jews are
concerned about these questions of the
legislative agenda in the Knesset
and the questions of free speech and the
issues with the Haredim. Even
the American Jewish Committee and ADL have
spoken out about it. I think
you see it in the American Jewish intellectual
conversation. Look at The
New York Times, which is the house newspaper of
the American Jewish
community. Look at their columnists.
"It's hard
to quantify, but I think if you did an honest poll of the
AIPAC agenda
versus the J Street agenda with American Jews, you would
have a roughly
50/50 split, which I think you would find was quite
generational. And that
among non-Orthodox American Jews under the age of
40, you would find that
the J Street agenda was more popular – (with the
J Street agenda being
active government intervention to try to bring
about a two-state solution. –
)"
But I can make the counterargument that if you take American Jews who
are actively interested in Israel, you will find that 90 percent will
agree with the Israeli government stance that Iran is a threat and the
Palestinians don't want peace.
"Barack Obama won more than 75 percent
of the Jewish vote. So you have
to reckon with the fact that despite the
statements from Jewish leaders
who voiced suspicion of Obama, the vast
majority still voted for him.
And I would be willing to bet what little
money I have in the bank that
Barack Obama will win 70 percent of the Jewish
vote in November. A lot
of those Jews are not voting on Israel, of course.
But they're not
totally uninterested in Israel. Which is to say, if they
genuinely
believed that Barack Obama was a threat ... then he wouldn't be
able to
get that number. I think people who are actually involved in
Israel-related organizations, who are on the right, are not a
representative sampling of American Jews, and this is a fundamental
problem you have more broadly in American politics. I mean, the Cuban
lobby does not represent most Cubans, but it represents the Cubans who
care the most. That's probably true for gun owners, too.
"I think one
question that American Jews who are on the left have to
face is how much
they care about this compared to everything else.
People say, 'Yes, and what
about global warming?' That's part of the
reason I don't come at this from a
purely universalistic perspective.
You say to people: You have to be
involved in this struggle because it's
the struggle of your people, it's
your honor. The future of Judaism is
going to be impacted by this, you can't
run away from it."
It doesn't seem like multitudes of Jews are flocking
to your point of
view, J Street notwithstanding. Do you think some are
afraid to speak
their minds?
"If you live in the Jewish
organizational world, then it's harder to be
a public critic of Israel. If
you live in the world of electoral
politics, it's harder. If you live in the
Orthodox community, it's
certainly harder. Other than that, I don't think
it's very hard. It just
depends on how close you are to this part of the
American Jewish
community. If you're just some left-leaning Jewish person
living among
other left-leaning people, then it's not hard. I don't want to
suggest
that I think people on the left who criticize Israel are persecuted.
But
there are some environments in which it's difficult."
Don't you
think one of the reasons your article resonated is that people
were
surprised that anyone dared to say the things you did? Is open
discussion of
Israel in the American media being stifled?
"I want people, non-Jewish
Americans, to have opinions about this like
they have opinions about
anything else. They may be wrong, they may be
stupid, they may be ignorant.
Let them have their opinions. And don't
call them anti-Semites unless they
have a history of animus toward the
Jewish people.
"The problem is
that we have a Jewish organizational world whose
business model is
anti-Semitism, and there's not enough of it in the
United States. So they
have to keep looking for it in the Israel debate,
when what's going on is
not anti-Semitism. And it upsets me a great deal
that American Jewish
leaders never have to pay the price. Nobody ever
loses their job for getting
up on the wrong side of the bed one morning,
reading an op-ed they don't
like, and then saying that that person is an
anti-Semite. And you should
lose your job for that. There should be
consequences for that. The pain of
being called an anti-Semite in this
post-Holocaust world, when you're not,
is just agonizing to watch,
frankly."
You won't be called an
anti-Semite; you'll be called a self-hating Jew.
"Whatever. What is a
self-hating Jew? All Jews are self-loving and
self-hating. It's one of the
stupidest things I've ever heard. I love
Jews more than anything in the
world, and Jews drive me crazy. But I
actually think I'm lucky, because I
think the debate is opening. I think
a lot about what it was like for Rabbi
Arnold Jacob Wolf, who had a
great influence on Obama, when he founded
Breira [an organization
devoted to recognition of the Palestinian right to
self-determination in
the mid-'70s, which was fiercely subdued by the
establishment]. I'm
operating [at] a time when the space is widening;
perhaps I'm trying to
widen it a bit more than some people would
like.
"I think American public discussion is really shifting and I don't
think
Netanyahu understands. I feel like there's a lot of hubris in the way
he
goes to AIPAC and he goes to Congress, and he thinks he has some vision
of what the real America is like – of those God-fearing Christians out
there. I don't think he understands that this is more and more
precarious. The sands could shift quickly."
Do you get hate mail? Are
people nasty to you?
"I get some. I've gotten some disturbing calls on my
cell phone, but
they've stopped. One has to keep this in perspective. I
mean, there are
journalists around the world who face real consequences, you
know –
Someone sends me a mean e-mail, I send them a mean e-mail back, or I
just delete it. The truth is that when you respond in a human way to
people, I find that they melt. I think a lot of these people are lonely.
They just want some response."
Beinart is to be the featured speaker
at this weekend's J Street
conference in Washington. He has recently
launched a blog for
liberal-Jewish opinion writers, called Zion Square, on
the popular
Internet website The Daily Beast.
What started out as an
article has, it seems, taken over much of his
professional life. It is a
position that will place him in the
crosshairs of many right-wing critics,
but it has also made him the
darling of left-wing circles. And in New York,
far more than in Tel
Aviv, that is as comfortable an environment as one
could wish for.
One of the criticisms against you is that you represent
this detached
American Jewish liberal whose main need is to be appreciated
by his own
leftist liberal milieu, and who isn't connected anymore to the
mainstream of where Jews are going.
"My Jewish identity, my sense of
connection to being Jewish, is not
because I'm on the left. I drag my kids
to shul every week, I read the
parchment with my son every week, and I send
my kids to Jewish school. J
Street is hosting a panel on how to talk to your
children about Israel.
And what I'm going to say, very explicitly, is that I
think the most
important thing to do with Jewish kids is to instill in them
a love of,
a commitment to and a fascination with Judaism and the Jewish
state. To
do all of that first.
"I'm going to pass on a Jewish
identity that is defined by disliking
Bibi Netanyahu. My hope is that I can
pass on a Jewish identity that is
rooted in having beautiful memories of
Purim. People can say whatever
they want about me, but if you want to look
20 or 30 years down the road
and see who succeeded with their kids – I'm
willing to put that effort
up against somebody who thinks that the way
they're going to instill
Jewish identity in their kid is by taking them to
the AIPAC conference."
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